my 57 is almost restored and I need to go to the Vehicle Inspection before receiving the plate. They want the "title" or what the US name the "title" or registration form with the last licence plate. I 've bought the car in Alberta. I don't know what they exactly want because I have no idea of Alberta laws for a car. If the last owner doesn't have this paper, how to find a copy?
Thanks and regards
Pierre
dualquadpete said
May 27, 2011
Don't know about Alberta,but here in Ont. you go to the court house & get a "sworn Avidavit" from a judge with all your paper work to get a Ownership for a vehicle with no said ownership, then you have to get the car "appraised" to pay the HST tax. That's why "always" get the car into my name as soon as possible with "low" appraisel, before I start work on it,otherwise you get "nailed" in taxes for finished car. Your lic. office should be able to tell you the procedure out there.
Laurentian 57 said
May 27, 2011
Sorry, but I just see that I forget to say I live in Belgium. In fact, I don't know what and where I could get this "title" or "vehicle registration" if the last owner lost it.
4SPEED427 said
May 27, 2011
Lots of Alberta guys here so they may correct me but I think Alberta still only uses a bill of sale to transfer ownerships.
Turn2Stone said
May 27, 2011
It is really up to authorities in Belgium I guess, but here is a thought. Perhaps someone in Alberta could get a title in their name by going through the affidavit process and then transfer the title/registration to you?
carnut70ls4 said
May 27, 2011
Carl Stevenson wrote:
Lots of Alberta guys here so they may correct me but I think Alberta still only uses a bill of sale to transfer ownerships.
Hi, yes we can still transfer ownership of a car/truck on bill of sale here in Alberta to new owner. But that may not be enough (bill of sale) in Beilgium to get new title. If not able to, contact me and I will try to help.
-- Edited by carnut70ls4 on Friday 27th of May 2011 07:40:02 AM
-- Edited by carnut70ls4 on Friday 27th of May 2011 07:41:04 AM
Laurentian 57 said
May 27, 2011
They want a vehicle registration with last plate and owner's name, a paper that follows the car after the sale for a new registration with the new owner..
67BBSD said
May 27, 2011
How did it get imported without paperwork
427carl said
May 27, 2011
Broadway Title search can help with titles for US cars...
www.broadwaytitle.com
Laurentian 57 said
May 27, 2011
It's a canadian one. Is there a canadian office for last registration. I only have a fax copy of an older registration in British Columbia from an other owner. Perhaps this paper was sufficient for import but the inspection in Belgium wants an original of the last owner.
67BBSD said
May 27, 2011
How would they know the BC one wasn,t the last ?
Laurentian 57 said
May 27, 2011
Yes, you're right...the name of the owner is not the same on the bill but I 'll try to get the original paper.
GLHS60 said
May 27, 2011
Here in Alberta all that is needed is a bill of sale to obtain registration. However you can not get a registration if the vehicle is not Alberta registered until the vehicle passes a very strict "OUT OF PROVINCE INSPECTION"
What Alberta does offer for approx $25.00 is a VIR or "VEHICLE INFORMATION REPORT" which is a document showing the vehicles' Alberta history. However this does not include any owner information or plate # as this would violate privacy laws.
So if you were here in Alberta and your car is still ACTIVE on the Alberta system you could get an Alberta registration in your name with a bill of sale and proof of insurance.
Thanks
Randy
timbuk said
May 27, 2011
is it possible the car got sold to bc and then not reggyed in alta?If you have good bc reggy info go to ICBC.com and apply for a request of ownership think it 20 bucks you never know....
73SC said
May 27, 2011
Sounds to me like you might have to get creative, all you need is a copy of an old alberta registartion and photoshop. Someone here might send one to you in an email.
I find that the easiest way to deal with bureaucracy is to give them what they want.
I once tried to transfer a car in Ontario but the previous owner had not signed the car over to me on the back of the registration. They wouldn't do it without a signature, so I left, went ouside, got a pen and signed it and came back in. Presto car was tarnsferred. That's 100% true.
-- Edited by 73SC on Friday 27th of May 2011 03:11:14 PM
timbuk said
May 27, 2011
i dont know anyone here thats ever done that.......
hwscowboy said
May 27, 2011
all we use here in alberta is a bill of sale.The plate stays with the old owner and the new owner gats a new plate when he registers the car.You have to have proof of insurance before you go to register it because they will ask for a bill of sale and proof of insurance before they give you registartion.You can have bill of sale form signed by you and the previous owner,he can just sign the registration on the back and give it to you.Or you can even just write one out on a piece of paper with the vin #,make,model,year.Last owners addy,your addy andsigned by both parties and a witness.the inspection is up to your insurance company and the form varies with each company.If the car is from another province an being rought into alberta it must hae an out of province inspection which is much more involved than the basic one.The basic involves suspension,brakes,horn,lights,tires,wipers,windsheild and major mods fom factory.Pretty simple stuff.If you can get the previous owner to send a copy of the last reistration that would have the plate info,etc on it.I'm not sure exactly how long they keep vehicles in the system,i think about 15 years.There is a way to claim an abondoned vehice but never gone through that yet but i will with the sedan delivery as ithasn't been rgistered since the sixties.There is what they call a title search but not sure how it works.
Pontiacanada said
May 28, 2011
hwscowboy wrote:
There is a way to claim an abondoned vehice but never gone through that yet but i will with the sedan delivery as ithasn't been rgistered since the sixties.There is what they call a title search but not sure how it works.
There is a guy on this site that did that with a car.
I did a search with the word "condoms" and the thread popped right up! I remember he found a lot of condoms in the car.
Laurentian said
May 28, 2011
Maybe you can register the car in Alberta under your name!? Then the registration is up to date, and any questions asked, you are the owner. We used to do that with guys who were not legal driving age (no license) but wanted their vehicle driven to school to work on in shop class so it was ready when they did get their license.
Just a thought
seventy2plus2 said
May 28, 2011
Laurentian wrote:
Maybe you can register the car in Alberta under your name!? Then the registration is up to date, and any questions asked, you are the owner. We used to do that with guys who were not legal driving age (no license) but wanted their vehicle driven to school to work on in shop class so it was ready when they did get their license.
Just a thought
Depending on when the vehicle was previously registered in Alberta, he may need a safety inspection to register the car in Alberta.
I think the issue here is he needs to determine if the vehicle was registered in Alberta after it came here from BC. If it was, he may be able to attain information on that registration.
MoboMac said
Jun 17, 2011
For a fee of $7.00 cdn, ICBC should be able to privide you with the name & address of the last BC registered owner.
They have a program called "last resort" & will assist you with getting current registration/title if s/n is found in their data base.
Hi
my 57 is almost restored and I need to go to the Vehicle Inspection before receiving the plate. They want the "title" or what the US name the "title" or registration form with the last licence plate. I 've bought the car in Alberta. I don't know what they exactly want because I have no idea of Alberta laws for a car. If the last owner doesn't have this paper, how to find a copy?
Thanks and regards
Pierre
Sorry, but I just see that I forget to say I live in Belgium. In fact, I don't know what and where I could get this "title" or "vehicle registration" if the last owner lost it.
Hi, yes we can still transfer ownership of a car/truck on bill of sale here in Alberta to new owner. But that may not be enough (bill of sale) in Beilgium to get new title. If not able to, contact me and I will try to help.
-- Edited by carnut70ls4 on Friday 27th of May 2011 07:40:02 AM
-- Edited by carnut70ls4 on Friday 27th of May 2011 07:41:04 AM
They want a vehicle registration with last plate and owner's name, a paper that follows the car after the sale for a new registration with the new owner..
Broadway Title search can help with titles for US cars...
www.broadwaytitle.com
It's a canadian one. Is there a canadian office for last registration. I only have a fax copy of an older registration in British Columbia from an other owner. Perhaps this paper was sufficient for import but the inspection in Belgium wants an original of the last owner.
Yes, you're right...the name of the owner is not the same on the bill but I 'll try to get the original paper.
Here in Alberta all that is needed is a bill of sale to obtain registration. However you can not get a registration if the vehicle is not Alberta registered until the vehicle passes a very strict "OUT OF PROVINCE INSPECTION"
What Alberta does offer for approx $25.00 is a VIR or "VEHICLE INFORMATION REPORT" which is a document showing the vehicles' Alberta history. However this does not include any owner information or plate # as this would violate privacy laws.
So if you were here in Alberta and your car is still ACTIVE on the Alberta system you could get an Alberta registration in your name with a bill of sale and proof of insurance.
Thanks
Randy
Sounds to me like you might have to get creative, all you need is a copy of an old alberta registartion and photoshop. Someone here might send one to you in an email.
I find that the easiest way to deal with bureaucracy is to give them what they want.
I once tried to transfer a car in Ontario but the previous owner had not signed the car over to me on the back of the registration. They wouldn't do it without a signature, so I left, went ouside, got a pen and signed it and came back in. Presto car was tarnsferred. That's 100% true.
-- Edited by 73SC on Friday 27th of May 2011 03:11:14 PM
all we use here in alberta is a bill of sale.The plate stays with the old owner and the new owner gats a new plate when he registers the car.You have to have proof of insurance before you go to register it because they will ask for a bill of sale and proof of insurance before they give you registartion.You can have bill of sale form signed by you and the previous owner,he can just sign the registration on the back and give it to you.Or you can even just write one out on a piece of paper with the vin #,make,model,year.Last owners addy,your addy andsigned by both parties and a witness.the inspection is up to your insurance company and the form varies with each company.If the car is from another province an being rought into alberta it must hae an out of province inspection which is much more involved than the basic one.The basic involves suspension,brakes,horn,lights,tires,wipers,windsheild and major mods fom factory.Pretty simple stuff.If you can get the previous owner to send a copy of the last reistration that would have the plate info,etc on it.I'm not sure exactly how long they keep vehicles in the system,i think about 15 years.There is a way to claim an abondoned vehice but never gone through that yet but i will with the sedan delivery as ithasn't been rgistered since the sixties.There is what they call a title search but not sure how it works.
There is a guy on this site that did that with a car.
Right here: http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t38130934/1970-parisienne-convertible-parts/
I did a search with the word "condoms" and the thread popped right up! I remember he found a lot of condoms in the car.
Maybe you can register the car in Alberta under your name!? Then the registration is up to date, and any questions asked, you are the owner. We used to do that with guys who were not legal driving age (no license) but wanted their vehicle driven to school to work on in shop class so it was ready when they did get their license.
Just a thought
Depending on when the vehicle was previously registered in Alberta, he may need a safety inspection to register the car in Alberta.
I think the issue here is he needs to determine if the vehicle was registered in Alberta after it came here from BC. If it was, he may be able to attain information on that registration.
For a fee of $7.00 cdn, ICBC should be able to privide you with the name & address of the last BC registered owner.
They have a program called "last resort" & will assist you with getting current registration/title if s/n is found in their data base.