Well .. with the spectacular failure of a hard line on the Parisienne, and the &^%$*& job Canuck tire did replacing what lines they did in the past (for the former owner) I'm going to replumb the whole car with new lines, routed correctly. Looking into supplies, I found steel, coated steel, and copper ...? Wait, copper? everyone knows copper won't safely support those pressures. No, but the new nickel copper alloy they've been using in europe for decades does. Doesn't rust, doesn't have a coating to chip and flake off either. Sound's like a winner to me .. only problem is, trying to find someone that sells it in Canuckistan. I'm coming up dry with the local shops (which really sucks because I found out last night that I drove right past a supplier in Michigan on the weekend). Anyone have a source? anyone used it?
davelacourse said
Aug 21, 2012
I would not use something that is so hard to get - when I went with all new hard lines for my brakes, I determined that standard steel lines are available pretty much anywhere on the planet (well, OK, North America, I'm not going to be driving anywhere else) and if you should have a failure in East Bumf**k you can pretty much always count on buying from stock in standard lenghts and fabbing something up on the spot ... fancy schmancy copper or stainless or unobtanium, not so much, eh?
Dave
Professur said
Aug 22, 2012
It's a one for one swap, unlike stainless. In the event of a failure, you can swap in a plain steel patch, standard 45° double flare, but given it's tensile strength and corrosion resistance, failure should be a low probability.
Have dealt with them. Great service, and great prices.
427carl said
Aug 22, 2012
save your money and use reg lines they will last 40-50 years
69ss said
Aug 22, 2012
Try Inline tube.com,I used them and they're excellent.Nice original looking factory bends. Everything is complete fittings etc.You can get your lines in stainless.The prices and shipping are reasonable.
Pontiacanada said
Aug 22, 2012
427carl wrote:
save your money and use reg lines they will last 40-50 years
True.
Professur said
Aug 22, 2012
427carl wrote:
save your money and use reg lines they will last 40-50 years
The original lines have already been replaced once, these are the second set in 27 years, and this is not a high mileage car. Understand .. I'm not one for 'bling' or spending money uselessly ... but where brakes are concerned, money is literally no object to me. As you say, these lines 'should have' lasted 40 years .. they didn't. Why, I don't know. Quebec road salt, the particular model of car, maybe even galvanic corrosion, I don't know ... but they didn't. The definition of insanity is repeating an action and expecting different results. I'd rather keep my money here at home, but I do know that Advance Auto in Plattsburg has nicopp if I can't get it here.
Professur said
Aug 24, 2012
Darn ... nobody's got it. I'm going to go with coated steel just to get back on the road. Hate doing it, but hate not driving more. I'm gonna put this info here for future reference .. because it was a pain to find online.
Line fitting sizes for combination valve, '85 parisienne and caprice
Input from MC front 3/16 1/2-20 Rear 1/4 9/16-20
Output Front 3/16 3/8-24 x2 Rear 1/4 7/16-24
half the damn toolbox of wrenches to remove one part .. way to go GM.
Pontiacanada said
Aug 24, 2012
Professur wrote:
half the damn toolbox of wrenches to remove one part .. way to go GM.
... or 2 pairs of vice grips to remove them.
Professur said
Aug 24, 2012
I was hoping to be able to reuse most of them. Ended up just cutting the lines, and taking the ends off on the bench with a pipe wrench.
Well .. with the spectacular failure of a hard line on the Parisienne, and the &^%$*& job Canuck tire did replacing what lines they did in the past (for the former owner) I'm going to replumb the whole car with new lines, routed correctly. Looking into supplies, I found steel, coated steel, and copper ...? Wait, copper? everyone knows copper won't safely support those pressures. No, but the new nickel copper alloy they've been using in europe for decades does. Doesn't rust, doesn't have a coating to chip and flake off either. Sound's like a winner to me .. only problem is, trying to find someone that sells it in Canuckistan. I'm coming up dry with the local shops (which really sucks because I found out last night that I drove right past a supplier in Michigan on the weekend). Anyone have a source? anyone used it?
Dave
Heard good things about this place: http://www.canlinetube.ca/index.php
I'm going to order from them.
Have dealt with them. Great service, and great prices.
save your money and use reg lines they will last 40-50 years
Try Inline tube.com,I used them and they're excellent.Nice original looking factory bends. Everything is complete fittings etc.You can get your lines in stainless.The prices and shipping are reasonable.
True.
The original lines have already been replaced once, these are the second set in 27 years, and this is not a high mileage car. Understand .. I'm not one for 'bling' or spending money uselessly ... but where brakes are concerned, money is literally no object to me. As you say, these lines 'should have' lasted 40 years .. they didn't. Why, I don't know. Quebec road salt, the particular model of car, maybe even galvanic corrosion, I don't know ... but they didn't. The definition of insanity is repeating an action and expecting different results. I'd rather keep my money here at home, but I do know that Advance Auto in Plattsburg has nicopp if I can't get it here.
Line fitting sizes for combination valve, '85 parisienne and caprice
Input from MC front 3/16 1/2-20
Rear 1/4 9/16-20
Output Front 3/16 3/8-24 x2
Rear 1/4 7/16-24
half the damn toolbox of wrenches to remove one part .. way to go GM.
... or 2 pairs of vice grips to remove them.