I have that ad too, 74 was also the first year for coil spring independant front suspension. They have a nice ride and handle quite well.
-- Edited by Big Banger on Tuesday 18th of September 2012 10:27:10 PM
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
I bought this truck from a fellow in Quesnel, B.C. a couple weeks ago, it is almost an identical twin to the other one I have that my dad bought new in 1974. This truck has a 392 V8 auto, 4.10 gears and an 8200LB GVW
Canadian Poncho said
Sep 19, 2012
That's a cool truck. Any more photos to share?
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
Thank you, here's a few more,
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
My dad and his truck, picture taken in 1974.
paris69 said
Sep 19, 2012
Very nice! Cool to have your dads old one as well.
timbuk said
Sep 19, 2012
truck looks really nice and so does the backdrop.....welcome to the hood!
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
paris69 -
Yes I am very happy my dad didn't sell that truck, I was 7 years old when he bought it and got to ride with him when he drove it home.
timbuk -
Thanks again! Lol
CdnGMfan said
Sep 19, 2012
International pickups were tough. they used to say "they aren't much for pretty, but they're hell for stout!" The weakness with them seems to be rust.
1974 was just about the end of the line for those trucks. The 1974 models gained a new grille, hood, fenders & series identification (the old 1210 was redesignated 200).
Attached is a 1974 ad I scanned back in 2001 out of an old Mechanics Illustrated.
I have to say that your new truck looks like a real beauty! People generally do not find them as nice as that now. The 392 is one tough engine. International even offered heavy-duty truck 5-speed manual transmissions in the pickups back then, many years before anyone else offered any form of 5-speed.
The engine lineup used to confuse me a bit. Besides using the 258 AMC straight six (replaced the International 264 six after 1970) they offered V8s in 304, 345, 392 & 401. The 401 was also an AMC engine and not very common. The 304 sounds like it should be an AMC engine but it was in fact a true International medium duty V8 that was around well before AMC's 304, when AMC's small V8 was either a 287 or 290 in the early 1960s.
I remember sitting in the first of that style pickup back at the 1969 Sportsman Show in Toronto. They had a white 1210 with a slide-in camper, plus a copper Scout that I loved.
A couple more 1974 pics:
International began offering their own in-house brand of caps & campers.
CdnGMfan, thanks for those pictures I haven't seen them before. Those 5 speeds were available in both direct and overdrive. I parted out a 68 pickup that had a factory 5 speed overdrive in it, we are going to put it in our 68 Travelette, it has a 4 speed in it with 4.56 gears.
timbuk said
Sep 19, 2012
Cam you are the info man!EXCELLENT
Pontiacanada said
Sep 19, 2012
Love your truck! I've always had a thing for International trucks. There seems to be many available on PEI., especially the '50s & '60s models and bigger farm trucks.
I almost bought a baby blue Scout with fibreglass front fenders in the '80s ... love those utes!
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
Thanks for the good comments. Here are some more ads,
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
I went to the Truck & Tractor Pull at B.C. Place Stadium in 1983, The Blue Ox was there :)
Big Banger said
Sep 19, 2012
Here is a load of new International's and the special edition Johnnie Reb,
CdnGMfan said
Sep 20, 2012
1975 200 series 4x4 test vehicle (392 auto):
Another shot of the 1975 ˝-ton with the Port-A-Cap that you pictured earlier:
I think the thing that intimidated buyers was the fact that they had to visit a truck-only dealership and deal with salespeople who were all about big rigs. Personally I think they made the toughest pickups at the time. I knew a few people that worked for International Harvester in Burlington, Ontario back in the day. Every year they would get a new company vehicle right at the very start of the new model year. That would pretty much mean a new Scout II. I remember riding with a best friend's brother in law in his new orange 1977 Scout II Ralley with a dual exhaust 345, Borg-Warner T-18 4-speed, traction lock 3.54 gears. As I recall it had balls.
Dad used to occasionally borrow a pickup from an associate, a '68 1010 series with a small V8 & 3-in-the-tree. It was the last of the previous styled generation that ran from 1957˝ through 1968. That truck was then replaced with a 1974. Years ago I used to work at the movers for the summer. Usually I was in a 1974 International Fleetstar A 1910 series tractor with a torquey 450 c.i.d straight six gas engine with a 5-speed and a 2-speed rear axle. I even managed to drive the thing somehow despite no Class A license. Manual steering! The Fleetstar A used the same cab as your 1974 pickup together with a large tilting fiberglass hood. They were made mid-1969 through 1977 and were powered by the old 406, 450 & 501 cube straight sixes derived from Diamond-T, and were often used to power the old R-series trucks that were produced from 1950 through 1967. The Fleetstar A also was powered by a 549 gas V8 or various diesel engines. Imagine how much it would cost to run a gas-powered truck like that today!
At any rate, thanks for the neat pictures there, Big Banger!
That test truck must be painted School Bus Yellow. I read in an IH forum that someone was considering putting a 549 V8 in a 74 pickup, others mentioned it wouldn't fit with the hood closed and it only got around 3 mpg :(
Marky Mark said
Sep 25, 2012
I love this thread! Whats the story behind Johnny Reb? I dont know if I've ever seen one of these in a crew cab before.
Big Banger said
Sep 25, 2012
The Johnnie Reb was a special edition made in 1971 for the southern states, production was around 487. As far as I know IH was the first company to offer a factory built crew cab in 1957 called a Travelette. I started another thread on this site about a 1968 Travelette we have, it took a long time to find a good one with a long bed.
CdnGMfan said
Sep 25, 2012
Prior to the Scout II Ralley & even the Johnnie Reb 1010 pickups there was another limited edition, the 1970 Scout Commanche. I have not seen it mentioned anywhere, but decades ago I used to have an ad for one in an Outdoor Life magazine from 1970. The Scout Commanche was based on the last of the 1st generation Scouts. They were painted solid white with stripes on the lower bodyside and top of hood & fenders in a sort of Adobe pattern, done like lace paint of the era. The stripes were ginger in colour. Wheels were chromed reverse and the tires were Goodyear Polyglas GT if I remember correctly. Geez, if I still had that magazine I could have scanned it and thus have the only reference to that model I have ever heard of. Too bad.
Big Banger said
Sep 25, 2012
If I remember correctly there was a Scout 800 Commanche for sale recently in Oregon or Utah. The Aristocrat was another one with fancy paint and chrome wheels, I have seen a few of them for sale too recently.
-- Edited by Big Banger on Tuesday 18th of September 2012 10:27:10 PM
I bought this truck from a fellow in Quesnel, B.C. a couple weeks ago, it is almost an identical twin to the other one I have that my dad bought new in 1974. This truck has a 392 V8 auto, 4.10 gears and an 8200LB GVW
Thank you, here's a few more,
My dad and his truck, picture taken in 1974.
Yes I am very happy my dad didn't sell that truck, I was 7 years old when he bought it and got to ride with him when he drove it home.
timbuk -
Thanks again! Lol
International pickups were tough. they used to say "they aren't much for pretty, but they're hell for stout!" The weakness with them seems to be rust.
1974 was just about the end of the line for those trucks. The 1974 models gained a new grille, hood, fenders & series identification (the old 1210 was redesignated 200).
Attached is a 1974 ad I scanned back in 2001 out of an old Mechanics Illustrated.
I have to say that your new truck looks like a real beauty! People generally do not find them as nice as that now. The 392 is one tough engine. International even offered heavy-duty truck 5-speed manual transmissions in the pickups back then, many years before anyone else offered any form of 5-speed.
The engine lineup used to confuse me a bit. Besides using the 258 AMC straight six (replaced the International 264 six after 1970) they offered V8s in 304, 345, 392 & 401. The 401 was also an AMC engine and not very common. The 304 sounds like it should be an AMC engine but it was in fact a true International medium duty V8 that was around well before AMC's 304, when AMC's small V8 was either a 287 or 290 in the early 1960s.
I remember sitting in the first of that style pickup back at the 1969 Sportsman Show in Toronto. They had a white 1210 with a slide-in camper, plus a copper Scout that I loved.
A couple more 1974 pics:
International began offering their own in-house brand of caps & campers.
A crew cab with an El Dorado slide-in camper:
Love your truck! I've always had a thing for International trucks. There seems to be many available on PEI., especially the '50s & '60s models and bigger farm trucks.
I almost bought a baby blue Scout with fibreglass front fenders in the '80s ... love those utes!
Thanks for the good comments. Here are some more ads,
I went to the Truck & Tractor Pull at B.C. Place Stadium in 1983, The Blue Ox was there :)
Here is a load of new International's and the special edition Johnnie Reb,
1975 200 series 4x4 test vehicle (392 auto):
Another shot of the 1975 ˝-ton with the Port-A-Cap that you pictured earlier:
I think the thing that intimidated buyers was the fact that they had to visit a truck-only dealership and deal with salespeople who were all about big rigs. Personally I think they made the toughest pickups at the time. I knew a few people that worked for International Harvester in Burlington, Ontario back in the day. Every year they would get a new company vehicle right at the very start of the new model year. That would pretty much mean a new Scout II. I remember riding with a best friend's brother in law in his new orange 1977 Scout II Ralley with a dual exhaust 345, Borg-Warner T-18 4-speed, traction lock 3.54 gears. As I recall it had balls.
Dad used to occasionally borrow a pickup from an associate, a '68 1010 series with a small V8 & 3-in-the-tree. It was the last of the previous styled generation that ran from 1957˝ through 1968. That truck was then replaced with a 1974. Years ago I used to work at the movers for the summer. Usually I was in a 1974 International Fleetstar A 1910 series tractor with a torquey 450 c.i.d straight six gas engine with a 5-speed and a 2-speed rear axle. I even managed to drive the thing somehow despite no Class A license. Manual steering! The Fleetstar A used the same cab as your 1974 pickup together with a large tilting fiberglass hood. They were made mid-1969 through 1977 and were powered by the old 406, 450 & 501 cube straight sixes derived from Diamond-T, and were often used to power the old R-series trucks that were produced from 1950 through 1967. The Fleetstar A also was powered by a 549 gas V8 or various diesel engines. Imagine how much it would cost to run a gas-powered truck like that today!
At any rate, thanks for the neat pictures there, Big Banger!
I dont know if I've ever seen one of these in a crew cab before.
Prior to the Scout II Ralley & even the Johnnie Reb 1010 pickups there was another limited edition, the 1970 Scout Commanche. I have not seen it mentioned anywhere, but decades ago I used to have an ad for one in an Outdoor Life magazine from 1970. The Scout Commanche was based on the last of the 1st generation Scouts. They were painted solid white with stripes on the lower bodyside and top of hood & fenders in a sort of Adobe pattern, done like lace paint of the era. The stripes were ginger in colour. Wheels were chromed reverse and the tires were Goodyear Polyglas GT if I remember correctly. Geez, if I still had that magazine I could have scanned it and thus have the only reference to that model I have ever heard of. Too bad.