Hi collective smart guys. I am trying to reassemble my rear end. (no snickering!) My 66 had multiple cheap paint jobs before I got it so I'm not sure if the areas between the louvers on the rear panel are supposed to be black or body colour. I have a parts 66 Grande panel that I don't think was repainted and it shows black between the louvers.
Here are pics of the two choices i seem to have. What is your advice?
-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 22nd of October 2012 04:40:14 PM
Crap, the Gold one I posted is painted black, I thought it was a shadow but zooming in shows its not. The other 2 I posted are painted body color Could it depend of the factory or date it was built???
-- Edited by B-52 on Monday 22nd of October 2012 11:24:02 PM
cdnpont said
Oct 23, 2012
No 66 expert, but logic would tell me black between the louvers. If only to offer the appearance of full length tailights during the daytime.
66 Grande guy said
Oct 23, 2012
I think you guys hit it on the head. I couldn't find any low angle rear ends shot of original Grande Parisiennes but after a while i thought to search on Grande Prixs (i figure they would be trimmed the same.) and I found this quote from Old Car.com:
"The Grand Prix was slightly restyled for 1966 with a wire mesh "eggcrate" grille and rectangular parking lamps. The Grand Prix's taillight panel featured chrome trim ribs, blacked out in between to give the impression of full-width taillights. '66 still wore the fender skirts and was also the last year for the tri-power."
So I think i have my answer and it would look cooler anyways, so a masking we will go!
grantR said
Oct 23, 2012
cool! Guess I have to get on the masking chain gang, too...mines all white.
or maybe not...wonder if that picture is true to life...?
66 Grande guy said
Oct 23, 2012
I saw that too Carl, but I've always been a bit suspicious of brochure art as it it usually done quite a while before the cars come out. I'd like to see a few shots of Canadian original paint cars. That being said it is a distinct possibility the canuck cars were a bit more cheaply trimmed and not painting the black would save a bit of detail work. Or maybe it was just done for some colours? Hmmm.
Hopefully somebody with a really good memory will show up here.
macsleuth said
Oct 23, 2012
Will see if I can grab a pic of mine, might have a spare in the basement I can check too.
4SPEED427 said
Oct 23, 2012
It's been a long time Ken but I am thinking the cars I've parted out had body colour. But then again, right now I have one of the worst head colds I've ever had so my thinking is not the greatest.
66 Grande guy said
Oct 23, 2012
That would be great because I'm even more confused after finding this picture from a Grande Prix brochure which directly contradicts the quote I put up. Very puzzling...
Thanks Carl too! Get well and stop trying to think!
4SPEED427 said
Oct 23, 2012
No problem!
I'm not a gambler but I'm betting on body colour as the final answer.
4SPEED427 said
Oct 23, 2012
I'm convinced now Ken. I spent some time in Google images. I found a gold car, gold rear panel. It would look wrong with a black panel.
73SC said
Oct 23, 2012
This reminds me of the debate over scoop insert colour for the 73 NASA hood. What we find is that at different times of assembly and different assembly plants the colour could be either black or body colour. I'd say the same thng here. To my eye black is much nicer. As for factory correct nobody here knows so make it the way you like.
66 Grande guy said
Oct 23, 2012
All i can say is I'm glad I'm a slow masker. I think I'll leave it body colour and if I can't stand it I'll change it. Thanks for all the input guys.
4SPEED427 said
Oct 23, 2012
Ken, my cloudy brain is slowly feeding me information!
I remember stripping the original paint off my 4 speed Grande Parisienne and there is no question the rear body panel was blue.
Plus I parted out a green original paint 66 Grande Parisienne and the panel was certainly green. And yes, it WAS a 396 car...!
4SPEED427 said
Oct 23, 2012
C'mon, the suspense is killing us! Can you run out tonight???!!!
timbuk said
Oct 23, 2012
it might be cold out there
66 Grande guy said
Oct 23, 2012
Carl Stevenson wrote:
Ken, my cloudy brain is slowly feeding me information!
I remember stripping the original paint off my 4 speed Grande Parisienne and there is no question the rear body panel was blue.
Plus I parted out a green original paint 66 Grande Parisienne and the panel was certainly green. And yes, it WAS a 396 car...!
Just for a minute i admired you for your knowledge and then I noticed that you got it by destroying nice cars!
Hi collective smart guys. I am trying to reassemble my rear end. (no snickering!) My 66 had multiple cheap paint jobs before I got it so I'm not sure if the areas between the louvers on the rear panel are supposed to be black or body colour. I have a parts 66 Grande panel that I don't think was repainted and it shows black between the louvers.
Here are pics of the two choices i seem to have. What is your advice?
-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 22nd of October 2012 04:40:14 PM
Perfect! I love how his finger points right to your name!
-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Monday 22nd of October 2012 10:52:12 PM
These might NOT help out or let you sleep tonight, the top one is painted black, the other 2 are body color
-- Edited by B-52 on Monday 22nd of October 2012 11:21:02 PM
Crap, the Gold one I posted is painted black, I thought it was a shadow but zooming in shows its not. The other 2 I posted are painted body color
Could it depend of the factory or date it was built???
-- Edited by B-52 on Monday 22nd of October 2012 11:24:02 PM
No 66 expert, but logic would tell me black between the louvers. If only to offer the appearance of full length tailights during the daytime.
I think you guys hit it on the head. I couldn't find any low angle rear ends shot of original Grande Parisiennes but after a while i thought to search on Grande Prixs (i figure they would be trimmed the same.) and I found this quote from Old Car.com:
"The Grand Prix was slightly restyled for 1966 with a wire mesh "eggcrate" grille and rectangular parking lamps. The Grand Prix's taillight panel featured chrome trim ribs, blacked out in between to give the impression of full-width taillights. '66 still wore the fender skirts and was also the last year for the tri-power."
So I think i have my answer and it would look cooler anyways, so a masking we will go!
I saw that too Carl, but I've always been a bit suspicious of brochure art as it it usually done quite a while before the cars come out. I'd like to see a few shots of Canadian original paint cars. That being said it is a distinct possibility the canuck cars were a bit more cheaply trimmed and not painting the black would save a bit of detail work. Or maybe it was just done for some colours? Hmmm.
Hopefully somebody with a really good memory will show up here.
That would be great because I'm even more confused after finding this picture from a Grande Prix brochure which directly contradicts the quote I put up. Very puzzling...
Thanks Carl too! Get well and stop trying to think!
I'm not a gambler but I'm betting on body colour as the final answer.
This reminds me of the debate over scoop insert colour for the 73 NASA hood. What we find is that at different times of assembly and different assembly plants the colour could be either black or body colour. I'd say the same thng here. To my eye black is much nicer. As for factory correct nobody here knows so make it the way you like.
All i can say is I'm glad I'm a slow masker. I think I'll leave it body colour and if I can't stand it I'll change it. Thanks for all the input guys.
I remember stripping the original paint off my 4 speed Grande Parisienne and there is no question the rear body panel was blue.
Plus I parted out a green original paint 66 Grande Parisienne and the panel was certainly green. And yes, it WAS a 396 car...!
Just for a minute i admired you for your knowledge and then I noticed that you got it by destroying nice cars!