I just purchase a beautiful 1952 Pontiac Hardtop with a 305 engine. I called her La Fée Verte in english it means The Green Fairy , in relation with the liquor called Absinthe.
On my Quebec liscense plate register card it is written PONTIAC model TUDOR. I always believe that Tudor was a Ford model. I think it's a Chieftain or a Catalina. I'm confused, I want to correct this mistake.
Please can someone help me decode my VIN.
Is my car buit in the U.S. as a Chevy and was import and rebadged Pontiac in Canada?
Or was it completly built in Ontario?
Thanks
-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 09:22:49 AM
-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 10:04:51 AM
If your car was built in Canada, or sold new in Canada, Vintage Vehicle Services in Oshawa can provide you info on the car, and possibly some of the options it came with:
I'm certainly no expert on early 50's Pontiac's, but a buddy inherited a 51 or 52 two door (which some people spell Tudor) and says it's a Canadian Catalina.
Often the cowl tag will indicate "GM of Canada" on it.
Catalina1952 said
Apr 20, 2017
Thanks you very much
CdnGMfan said
Apr 20, 2017
"Tudor" was a term that I think Ford started in the 30's that referred to a 2 door sedan with generous interior accommodations and a longer roof like a 4-door sedan. A coupe by comparison had a much shorter roof and was a little more intimate (closer) inside.
Tudor kind of went on to become a sort of generic term.
Looking at your avatar reminds me of my old open-face Bell Magnum helmet. I nicknamed the helmet "Gazoo".
Also let me say Welcome to Canadianponcho. We'd love to see pictures of your Green Fairy.
67Poncho said
Apr 20, 2017
The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...
1952 production date model engine colour location? owner pic
unknown 20-07 239ci 250 (470 int.) ontario link #145 Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr coupe Dualquadpete
unknown 25-37D 277 (472 int.) Saskatchewan link #554 Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe spot.67poncho
unknown 25-37D 277 (472 int.) Alberta link #705 Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe ,Talaka
Jan. 23rd 1952 22-11 239ci 254 (476 int.) B.C link #973 Fleetleader 2dr sdn Moss Green 1952 Model2211
unknown 20-11 239ci 261 (470 int) Ontario link #2132 Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn
unknown 20-69 239ci 264 (492 int.) B.C link #4425 Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn Jughead
unknown 22-69 239ci 256 (476 int.) Sask link #4702 Fleetleader Special 4dr sdn spot.67poncho
unknown 22-69 239ci 251 (476 int.) Saskatchwan link #7838 Fleetleader Special 4dr sdn cheviac
Model number 2011 is Fleetleader Deluxe 2 door sedan, 6 passenger. Base price was $2293 and weight was 3202lbs. Vin sequence started with 2201100001 and up. According to my source there were no 2 door hardtop Fleetleader's.
Catalina1952 said
Apr 20, 2017
20-11 VCould it be
a wrong tag on my car?
Is it the original tag ? Is a hardtop so I 'm more confused than yesterday!
What is the model number of the Hardtop sold in Canada in 1952?
Fleetleader , Chieftain or Catalina.... I know taht Pathfinder started in 1953
It's a mystery for me!
67Poncho said
Apr 20, 2017
seventy2plus2 wrote:
Vince, take a closer look at the cowl tag.
I think Model 20-11 (not 2211). Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sedan.
HUH??? That's what I said.... (although, I had to recheck it)
The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...
And, I just went by the tag only.... which has been removed at one time or replaced...
-- Edited by 67Poncho on Thursday 20th of April 2017 03:56:56 PM
Canadian Poncho said
Apr 20, 2017
There was a 52 Chieftain Deluxe Six Catalina model number is 2537D and a Deluxe Eight Catalina Hardtop model 2737D
Is there a VIN number on the car other than what's on that body tag? What VIN is on your registration?
Catalina1952 said
Apr 21, 2017
The VIN on my registration is exactly the same as on the cowl tag
2201128993
I could not find another number or tag on the car.
I have to stick with one I got even if it 's not the original
norontcan said
Apr 23, 2017
Should there not be a VIN tag on the A pillar? Windshield pillar inside the drivers door jam.
Hi Pontiac Lovers!
I just purchase a beautiful 1952 Pontiac Hardtop with a 305 engine. I called her La Fée Verte in english it means The Green Fairy , in relation with the liquor called Absinthe.
On my Quebec liscense plate register card it is written PONTIAC model TUDOR. I always believe that Tudor was a Ford model. I think it's a Chieftain or a Catalina. I'm confused, I want to correct this mistake.
Please can someone help me decode my VIN.
Is my car buit in the U.S. as a Chevy and was import and rebadged Pontiac in Canada?
Or was it completly built in Ontario?
Thanks
-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 09:22:49 AM
-- Edited by Catalina1952 on Thursday 20th of April 2017 10:04:51 AM
www.vintagevehicleservices.com/options.html
I'm certainly no expert on early 50's Pontiac's, but a buddy inherited a 51 or 52 two door (which some people spell Tudor) and says it's a Canadian Catalina.
Often the cowl tag will indicate "GM of Canada" on it.
"Tudor" was a term that I think Ford started in the 30's that referred to a 2 door sedan with generous interior accommodations and a longer roof like a 4-door sedan. A coupe by comparison had a much shorter roof and was a little more intimate (closer) inside.
Tudor kind of went on to become a sort of generic term.
Looking at your avatar reminds me of my old open-face Bell Magnum helmet. I nicknamed the helmet "Gazoo".
Also let me say Welcome to Canadianponcho. We'd love to see pictures of your Green Fairy.
The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...
1952
production date model engine colour location? owner pic
unknown 20-07 239ci 250 (470 int.) ontario link
#145 Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr coupe Dualquadpete
unknown 25-37D 277 (472 int.) Saskatchewan link
#554 Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe spot.67poncho
unknown 25-37D 277 (472 int.) Alberta link
#705 Chieftan Catalina Deluxe 2dr coupe ,Talaka
Jan. 23rd 1952 22-11 239ci 254 (476 int.) B.C link
#973 Fleetleader 2dr sdn Moss Green
1952 Model2211
unknown 20-11 239ci 261 (470 int) Ontario link
#2132 Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn
unknown 20-69 239ci 264 (492 int.) B.C link
#4425 Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn Jughead
unknown 22-69 239ci 256 (476 int.) Sask link
#4702 Fleetleader Special 4dr sdn spot.67poncho
unknown 22-69 239ci 251 (476 int.) Saskatchwan link
#7838 Fleetleader Special 4dr sdn cheviac
unknown 20-69 239ci 258 (492 int.) ontario
#9110 Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn
unknown 20-69 239ci 253 (470 int.) Sask. link
#13098 Fleetleader Deluxe 4dr sdn cheviac
5852 of model 2211 Fleetleader 2dr sdn produced
254-Moss Green
259-green
I think Model 20-11 (not 2211). Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sedan.
Did they screw on tags in '52?
Pictures of La Fée verte
a wrong tag on my car?
Is it the original tag ? Is a hardtop so I 'm more confused than yesterday!
What is the model number of the Hardtop sold in Canada in 1952?
Fleetleader , Chieftain or Catalina.... I know taht Pathfinder started in 1953
It's a mystery for me!
HUH??? That's what I said.... (although, I had to recheck it)
The list we have.. looks to be a Fleetleader Deluxe 2dr sdn...
And, I just went by the tag only.... which has been removed at one time or replaced...
-- Edited by 67Poncho on Thursday 20th of April 2017 03:56:56 PM
Is there a VIN number on the car other than what's on that body tag? What VIN is on your registration?
2201128993
I could not find another number or tag on the car.
I have to stick with one I got even if it 's not the original