Nice! A Canadian assembly manual, I've had no luck finding one for 65. The 65 US Chevrolet assembly manual doesn't provide any better measurements, no idea what P.V. is all about? The 65 accessory installation manual is no more help either. A template is what's needed, but the hole was already there for my car. It was butchery, but thankfully under size with an aftermarket antenna, so a cone shaped grinding stone on a drill rounded it cleanly for an NOS kit install. The service antenna bezels require the notch at 12-o-clock unlike 65 factory installations, so something to be aware of before you notch out as per the assembly manual.
I see 69 has it at 12-o-clock from the factory, but I don't know about 66-68. Service kits also lack the cable to trans tunnel clips/fasteners, and the metal shield for the cable under the rear seat found on factory installs for 65, but other years? No rear antenna for am/fm radios either, too much loss with the long cable for 65, but other years?
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Monday 29th of January 2018 12:36:03 AM
4SPEED427 said
Jan 29, 2018
I just noticed the date on there, 2-15-68. They sure worked ahead, but I guess they have to.
Canadian Poncho said
Jan 29, 2018
This 2+2 has one.
cdnpont said
Jan 29, 2018
My 2+2 had it. Always liked the rear antenna, looked like it belonged there with that cool rakeback. Up front always looked kind of an afterthought imop.
My 2+2 has a factory installed one. Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead. btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna.
notice that the comment from the assembly manual on having the notch reversed 180 degrees is from the end of October, two months into production, did they change the actual punching during the production run or was it just an after the fact paper work correction to reflect what was already happening and the panel stamping plant?
409Safari said
Jan 29, 2018
North wrote:
My 2+2 has a factory installed one. Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead. btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna.
And I withnessed many times somebody that don't own the car trying to ''correct'' the angle by putting the antenna straight up!!!
cdnpont said
Jan 29, 2018
409Safari wrote:
North wrote:
My 2+2 has a factory installed one. Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead. btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna.
And I withnessed many times somebody that don't own the car trying to ''correct'' the angle by putting the antenna straight up!!!
Mine got vandalized straightend once, and I was actually able to get a GM replacement back in 77'. Ah...the old days.
4SPEED427 said
Jan 29, 2018
1981 I parked my 4 speed 66 Grande Parisienne in a Winnipeg residential area over night. Next morning the power antenna was bent at 90 degrees. I was so mad, mostly at myself. Of course I couldn't get a GM replacement.... The Canadian Pontiac power antenna was straight up, not the same as US.
And it was my own stupid fault for not retracting it.
409Safari said
Jan 29, 2018
Carl Stevenson wrote:
And it was my own stupid fault for not retracting it.
If I remember well, the electric antenna on my cousin's Cadillac, retracted when you turn off the radio.....
.... (or/and ignition switch).....
4SPEED427 said
Jan 29, 2018
I think you are right about the Caddys but alas it was not on the Pontiacs. It was a manually operated electric antenna. Sadly...
-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Monday 29th of January 2018 06:01:47 PM
Oshawa65SS said
Jan 30, 2018
Some antenna trivia that may apply to Canadian Pontiac too , for 65 Canadian full size Chevy the antenna nut is black plastic on assembly line installs and Canadian part numbered service kits, whereas US versions are chrome plated pot metal in both cases. The 65 factory rear mounting is cumbersome with a ground "ring" (rectangle actually), used in conjunction with a reinforcement washer with a little ground claw tacked to the edge of it. 65 service kits and 66 factory installs replaced these two pieces with one, it's stamped "W" for Ward/Ancoa. The disc is on the small side as mentioned, compared to this 67 Camaro example. Here's the factory 65 rear antenna install cable shield and clips mentioned previously, and the 65 factory notch NOT at 12-o-clock which means it doesn't work for service kit bezel installs.
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:03:03 AM
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:18:49 AM
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:59:53 AM
It's interesting you brought this up. I had never thought about it before but I don't think there is a manual rear antenna offered on a 66 full size Canadian Pontiac. I think the choices are manual front or power rear, and as was mentioned somewhere on this forum recently, only a front antenna with the AM/FM radio.
Pontiacanada said
Jan 30, 2018
Oshawa65SS wrote:
Some antenna trivia that may apply to Canadian Pontiac too , for 65 Canadian full size Chevy the antenna nut is black plastic on assembly line installs and Canadian part numbered service kits
Yes, my '64 Parisienne has this black plastic nut (mine is cracked, but I have a replacement):
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 06:18:36 AM
The 65 US Chevrolet assembly manual doesn't provide any better measurements, no idea what P.V. is all about?8.
Been looking at installing twin rear antennas on my 64 SD and I find a measurement (?) with PV beside it in the 64 Chevelle Asssembly manual. Anyone able to decode PV?
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Monday 29th of January 2018 12:36:03 AM
North said
Feb 1, 2018
In 69 Canadian ponchos there was no power antenna option, just rear manual option.
Several of my American cars have power antennas. The Canadian rear manual is raked 15-20 degrees rearward from vertical, the American power rear is more like 30 degrees.
Oshawa65SS said
Feb 14, 2018
Pontiacanada wrote:
Yes, my '64 Parisienne has this black plastic nut (mine is cracked, but I have a replacement):
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 06:18:36 AM
That same black plastic nut I have doesn't fit over the fat mast and antenna body with the bowtie emblem on my car.
It's a Chevy 986103 service antenna kit.
Looks like I need a Canadian version antenna instead.
I found this in the assembly manual tonight as I was preparing to send one to someone.
I'll see what I can do...
Nice!
A Canadian assembly manual, I've had no luck finding one for 65.
The 65 US Chevrolet assembly manual doesn't provide any better measurements, no idea what P.V. is all about?
The 65 accessory installation manual is no more help either.
A template is what's needed, but the hole was already there for my car.
It was butchery, but thankfully under size with an aftermarket antenna, so a cone shaped grinding stone on a drill rounded it cleanly for an NOS kit install.
The service antenna bezels require the notch at 12-o-clock unlike 65 factory installations, so something to be aware of before you notch
out as per the assembly manual.
I see 69 has it at 12-o-clock from the factory, but I don't know about 66-68.
Service kits also lack the cable to trans tunnel clips/fasteners, and the metal shield for the cable under the rear seat found on factory installs for 65, but other years?
No rear antenna for am/fm radios either, too much loss with the long cable for 65, but other years?
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Monday 29th of January 2018 12:36:03 AM
This 2+2 has one.
My 2+2 had it. Always liked the rear antenna, looked like it belonged there with that cool rakeback. Up front always looked kind of an afterthought imop.
My 2+2 has a factory installed one. Had it off for thed paint job and indeed the notch is straight ahead. btw, they should have used a better re-enforcement, everyone I've ever seen including mine has sheetmetal distortion caused by movement in the antenna.
And I withnessed many times somebody that don't own the car trying to ''correct'' the angle by putting the antenna straight up!!!
Mine got vandalized straightend once, and I was actually able to get a GM replacement back in 77'. Ah...the old days.
And it was my own stupid fault for not retracting it.
If I remember well, the electric antenna on my cousin's Cadillac, retracted when you turn off the radio.....
.... (or/and ignition switch).....
-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Monday 29th of January 2018 06:01:47 PM
Some antenna trivia that may apply to Canadian Pontiac too , for 65 Canadian full size Chevy the antenna nut is black plastic on assembly line installs and Canadian part numbered service kits,
whereas US versions are chrome plated pot metal in both cases.
The 65 factory rear mounting is cumbersome with a ground "ring" (rectangle actually), used in conjunction with a reinforcement washer with a little ground claw tacked to the edge of it.
65 service kits and 66 factory installs replaced these two pieces with one, it's stamped "W" for Ward/Ancoa.
The disc is on the small side as mentioned, compared to this 67 Camaro example.
Here's the factory 65 rear antenna install cable shield and clips mentioned previously, and the 65 factory notch NOT at 12-o-clock which means it doesn't work for service kit bezel installs.
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:03:03 AM
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:18:49 AM
-- Edited by Oshawa65SS on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 12:59:53 AM
Yes, my '64 Parisienne has this black plastic nut (mine is cracked, but I have a replacement):
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Tuesday 30th of January 2018 06:18:36 AM
This early seventies hot rodder makes a good use of an angle antenna mast.........sorry for the derail..................
Several of my American cars have power antennas. The Canadian rear manual is raked 15-20 degrees rearward from vertical, the American power rear is more like 30 degrees.
That same black plastic nut I have doesn't fit over the fat mast and antenna body with the bowtie emblem on my car.
It's a Chevy 986103 service antenna kit.
Looks like I need a Canadian version antenna instead.