I need an N for the rear panel of a 65 ACADIAN Beaumont project that I am working on. Any help would be appreciated
Thanks Lawrence
65 SD L79 said
Dec 5, 2021
i will look for you tomorrow Lawrence
65Camino said
Dec 6, 2021
Put an apostrophe in instead.
MC said
Dec 6, 2021
See how many N's are up there, Vanna!
65Camino said
Dec 6, 2021
How about an U placed upside down ?
unruhjonny said
Dec 6, 2021
Is the 'A-C-A-D-I-A-N' script the same style used on other period Pontiac's?
If "yes" does anyone have pictures of the stud placement on the back side of the "N"?
I have observed that 1960's Pontiac's use either the same, or similar style 'P-O-N-T-I-A-C' script letters, and have a small collection of my own - from which I can check if I have a spare 'N'.
ROSIES CAR said
Dec 6, 2021
I think the Pontiac letters are slightly smaller or at least the I is, awhile back I compared the two. It was not that noticeable on the panel beside the other letters. There is a difference between 64-65 letters, the one on the right side is 65 Beaumont. There are no mounting studs on 65s the pot metal stud is mushroomed over on the panel. Thats why they are always missing they where out and fall off. The studs are centred horizontally on either leg of the N. see picture of D for stud placement.
-- Edited by ROSIES CAR on Monday 6th of December 2021 06:55:12 PM
when Joe Lison had new ones cast they drilled and tapped the stud and used a beveled screw. worked well
65 SD L79 said
Dec 7, 2021
so I found 5 panels. 3 of them have no letters, one has an I and the other one has an A and a D
ROSIES CAR said
Dec 7, 2021
70 SS ACADIAN wrote:
so I found 5 panels. 3 of them have no letters, one has an I and the other one has an A and a D
Thanks for looking Kevin, the search continues.
I have had great success with drilling a shallow hole in letter and then use JB weld to fill hole flush to back side of panel, never had one come off yet. I may also look into possibly useing a Pontiac N but will have to find out size first
-- Edited by ROSIES CAR on Tuesday 7th of December 2021 04:56:53 PM
jmont64 said
Dec 7, 2021
Lawrence, I am pretty sure I have mentioned it to you too but I have sold 4-5 sets of 64 letters to 65 guys. Everyone was able to use them and was happy with the results. A couple guys paid big as they ended up taking a real nice tail panel from me.
ROSIES CAR said
Dec 7, 2021
Jarel
I have used 64 letters and ground the ribs to suit the letters in the past and had great success. I have a set of 64 letters but missing the I Like kevin I had a bunch of panels with no letters and have been adding letters to them. This time I filled the seven holes for the regular letters and then drilled in eight new holes. I then painted the panel bright red and the letters will be painted bright white. The panel will read CANADIAN when done.
jmont64 said
Dec 7, 2021
I have a few 64 letters around. Will be home in a week if you want me to check.
66 327 sd said
Dec 8, 2021
A script that reads Canadian is what Ive also been hoping to do with a rear panel for my 66 Beaumont.
-- Edited by 66 327 sd on Wednesday 8th of December 2021 01:22:42 AM
unruhjonny said
Dec 8, 2021
wow, I don't recall ever seeing the mushroom variant on the old Pontiac lettering!?
unruhjonny said
Dec 8, 2021
Ok, so even though I do not have that 1965 specific style lettering, maybe I can still be of some assistance;
I just looked, and I only have a spare "T" - so that's of no use to you...
I grabbed an "N" & "I" from a "P-O-N-T-I-A-C" set to measure them for you;
The "N" measures 0.94" wide and 0.571" tall (at the base)
The "I" measures 0.271" wide and 0.566" tall (at the base)
These are the ones used on 1970 Firebirds, as well as a ton of others;
I have observed that in some instances the stud placement can differ depending on the model, but if you're looking ot complete a set of 1964 letters, and grind off the studs, then maybe that will be of benefit.
I found a vendor at the last(!) Portland Swap meet (which was 2019 for those paying attention) who had a pan full of these letters and had a flat rate per letter - I bought some singles off of him to complete a spare set of letters;
I saw differences, made guesses on what was correct for me, and guessed correctly - I cannot immediately recall the letter/stud differences I observed.
The only way to chase down a full interchange would be to get all the latest printed versions of the different model master parts catalogues, and to compare the part numbers for each year & letter.
ROSIES CAR said
Dec 9, 2021
Almost done, just need an N Then it can be a CANADIAN Beaumont
Wicked cool. I have a spare 63 Grand Prix letter N and some 66 Bonneville letter N as well. Will try to get some dimensions and pin locations for you this weekend.
Just got in from Florida 2 day drive and a covid pain in the ass at the border. Need to de stress for a day or 2.
Bill.
65Camino said
Dec 13, 2021
Too funny
ROSIES CAR said
Dec 13, 2021
a421cat wrote:
Wicked cool. I have a spare 63 Grand Prix letter N and some 66 Bonneville letter N as well. Will try to get some dimensions and pin locations for you this weekend. Just got in from Florida 2 day drive and a covid pain in the ass at the border. Need to de stress for a day or 2.
Bill.
Thanks Bill
At this point I am willing to consider anything that is close
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I need an N for the rear panel of a 65 ACADIAN Beaumont project that I am working on. Any help would be appreciated
Thanks Lawrence
i will look for you tomorrow Lawrence
See how many N's are up there, Vanna!
If "yes" does anyone have pictures of the stud placement on the back side of the "N"?
I have observed that 1960's Pontiac's use either the same, or similar style 'P-O-N-T-I-A-C' script letters, and have a small collection of my own - from which I can check if I have a spare 'N'.
I think the Pontiac letters are slightly smaller or at least the I is, awhile back I compared the two. It was not that noticeable on the panel beside the other letters. There is a difference between 64-65 letters, the one on the right side is 65 Beaumont. There are no mounting studs on 65s the pot metal stud is mushroomed over on the panel. Thats why they are always missing they where out and fall off. The studs are centred horizontally on either leg of the N. see picture of D for stud placement.
-- Edited by ROSIES CAR on Monday 6th of December 2021 06:55:12 PM
when Joe Lison had new ones cast they drilled and tapped the stud and used a beveled screw. worked well
so I found 5 panels. 3 of them have no letters, one has an I and the other one has an A and a D
Thanks for looking Kevin, the search continues.
I have had great success with drilling a shallow hole in letter and then use JB weld to fill hole flush to back side of panel, never had one come off yet. I may also look into possibly useing a Pontiac N but will have to find out size first
-- Edited by ROSIES CAR on Tuesday 7th of December 2021 04:56:53 PM
I have used 64 letters and ground the ribs to suit the letters in the past and had great success. I have a set of 64 letters but missing the I Like kevin I had a bunch of panels with no letters and have been adding letters to them. This time I filled the seven holes for the regular letters and then drilled in eight new holes. I then painted the panel bright red and the letters will be painted bright white. The panel will read CANADIAN when done.
A script that reads Canadian is what Ive also been hoping to do with a rear panel for my 66 Beaumont.
-- Edited by 66 327 sd on Wednesday 8th of December 2021 01:22:42 AM
I just looked, and I only have a spare "T" - so that's of no use to you...
I grabbed an "N" & "I" from a "P-O-N-T-I-A-C" set to measure them for you;
The "N" measures 0.94" wide and 0.571" tall (at the base)
The "I" measures 0.271" wide and 0.566" tall (at the base)
These are the ones used on 1970 Firebirds, as well as a ton of others;
I have observed that in some instances the stud placement can differ depending on the model, but if you're looking ot complete a set of 1964 letters, and grind off the studs, then maybe that will be of benefit.
I found a vendor at the last(!) Portland Swap meet (which was 2019 for those paying attention) who had a pan full of these letters and had a flat rate per letter - I bought some singles off of him to complete a spare set of letters;
I saw differences, made guesses on what was correct for me, and guessed correctly - I cannot immediately recall the letter/stud differences I observed.
The only way to chase down a full interchange would be to get all the latest printed versions of the different model master parts catalogues, and to compare the part numbers for each year & letter.
Then it can be a CANADIAN Beaumont
Just got in from Florida 2 day drive and a covid pain in the ass at the border. Need to de stress for a day or 2.
Bill.
Too funny
Thanks Bill
At this point I am willing to consider anything that is close