There is for the full size. If you like I can check to see if I can find one for the Beaumont/Chevelle as well.
65 SD L79 said
Dec 2, 2022
sure wish someone would reproduce them for A & B body cars. I need alot of them
4SPEED427 said
Dec 2, 2022
5738462 group 2.559 is the part for 65-66 Canadian Pontiac and full size Chev. This has to be one of the most elusive part numbers ever. The only way I was able to even find it was the 1966 Canadian Pontiac assembly manual has it in an illustration. Using that part number I went in to the numerical index in the parts book and was able to find it in a Canadian Pontiac parts book dated June 1966. The next issue I have is November 1969 and by then it has completely disappeared from the book, as if it never existed. The other place I found it was in a 1965 Canadian full size Chevrolet parts book dated Feb 1965.
Now, for the Beaumont and Canadian Chevelle part number, I can't find a thing. My oldest Beaumont book is 1969 and it has nothing listed. It's a long shot but does anyone here have a Canadian parts book for Chevelle maybe dated older than 1969? Or a Beaumont parts book dated older than 1969? If so, can you please check for a "Retainer, wiring harness to rad support" in group 2.559?
66 Beau said
Dec 2, 2022
My Beaumont Parts Book No. 692A, 1964-69 Beaumont, Group 2.559 shows this:
My Beaumont Parts Book No. 692A, 1964-69 Beaumont, Group 2.559 shows this:
and,
-- Edited by 66 Beau on Friday 2nd of December 2022 02:43:26 PM
Ok, so that's the same as the Beaumont book I have and it doesn't even mention such a part exists. Hopefully someone has an older book. An older Canadian Chevelle book would work too but it has to be GM of Canada, not the US book.
66 Beau said
Dec 2, 2022
See my edit - I was typing at the same time as Carl.
Yes, it's for a pickup, but pretty sure it'd work. Might need to be trimmed to shorten it for a Beaumont or Acadian, but should be very close for a full size car.
I think this website provides a better picture of what the part looks like...
It's better than nothing but my friend who is restoring a 66 Impala L72 car said it's not close enough for a nice restoration. However, it's better than that convoluted loom that so many guys use.
beaumontguru said
Dec 3, 2022
Ya, the truck one for across the rad is very similar, probably the closest of all, but it is still very different profile from the original canadian ones
those samples mark posted are interesting, chinese variants, if only they could make it in the proper profile, maybe we should start getting it reproduced? i wonder where a guy would start? what company could manufacture such a part?
4SPEED427 said
Dec 3, 2022
If we could find someone to do it I'm pretty sure I know a guy who would help finance the project.
CdnGMfan said
Dec 3, 2022
I was confirming the style used for the Chevelles & Beaumonts for '67. I figured these are all 1st gen A-bodies. When I check under the hood, the original stuff in my application is more like handlebar tape or even cloth elbow wrap. In this application I believe it is cloth tape. It is original and a little gummy or oily after so many decades. It is wrapped around the whole forward harness, across the rad support hidden & clipped within the rad support channel. That is apparently what they did on the A-bodies in 67. The 65-66 you are saying has a conduit that they run the forward wire through across to the battery side. Hmmm. I wonder if Home Depot might have something, or maybe an arts & crafts store. It might look right but may not meet certain specs in terms of fire retardancy or resiliency with respect to oil. Maybe ribbed heater hose, sliced lengthwise. That would be too thick though. A thinner version would seem like the ticket. What many would do when faced with this is simply run the wire through flexible PVC pipe as they did on 1970s-onward in GMs.
I hear you though, the correct details can make a car stand out.
Red herrings:
1. The U.S. Chevelle AIM for '67 gives tape a part # of 3724851
2. I still have the factory firewall gutter on my car. They often would split over time. Reproductions are available so no big deal.
68beaumont said
Dec 5, 2022
4SPEED427 wrote:
5738462 group 2.559 is the part for 65-66 Canadian Pontiac and full size Chev. This has to be one of the most elusive part numbers ever. The only way I was able to even find it was the 1966 Canadian Pontiac assembly manual has it in an illustration. Using that part number I went in to the numerical index in the parts book and was able to find it in a Canadian Pontiac parts book dated June 1966. The next issue I have is November 1969 and by then it has completely disappeared from the book, as if it never existed. The other place I found it was in a 1965 Canadian full size Chevrolet parts book dated Feb 1965.
Now, for the Beaumont and Canadian Chevelle part number, I can't find a thing. My oldest Beaumont book is 1969 and it has nothing listed. It's a long shot but does anyone here have a Canadian parts book for Chevelle maybe dated older than 1969? Or a Beaumont parts book dated older than 1969? If so, can you please check for a "Retainer, wiring harness to rad support" in group 2.559?
Carl, i also found a listing in a November 1967 Canadian Pontiac Catalogue that i have.
Ok, that looks the same as my book from a few years later. Thanks.
Still hoping someone has an older Beaumont or Chevelle parts book, around 1965-1967
4SPEED427 said
Dec 6, 2022
I received a phone call today from a very helpful man who reads Canadian Poncho. He's not a member of the site but was wiling to send me a picture of the parts page in his Canadian 1966 Chevelle parts book. This confirms that the 1965-1966 Canadian Chevelles use the same part number for this wire gutter as the full size 1965-1966 Canadian Pontiacs and full size Chevys.
I think we need to pursue a reproduction of this part. I'm sure there must be a market it for it to restorers.
Unfortunately the young punk facebookers probably have no idea what this is or that its canadian or that thier car should have one. But, yes I am sure there is still a sadly dwindling market for us guys that know what we are talking about.
LT1Caddy said
Dec 6, 2022
Carl.. I checked in my Canadian GM parts catalog , #671 Red Cover, 58-67 Chevrolet. This part is listed. I think I have a Canadian poncho book, I'll check it 2moro.
I'm interested in having it reproduced, I think I have at least 3 of them "Sold". I know there is at least one, maybe two needed by JA. He's called me needing even a decent one, which I delivered, but he needs a mint one for an ongoing restoration.
4SPEED427 said
Dec 6, 2022
Yes, he's asked me for them as well. I suspect he would be interested in helping fund a reproduction of this piece.
LT1Caddy said
Dec 9, 2022
Do we have an idea on "who" could reproduce this? And, is it still possible ?
cdnpont said
Dec 9, 2022
The only economical way would be an extrusion, and that would be easy.. But it would be extremely difficult to get that pebble grain...wait... this must be a molded part!
LT1Caddy said
Dec 9, 2022
The one you (Mark) I have seen is smooth with a sheen. I know nothing about manufacturing/ producing parts... I don't think it's molded, I think it's a flat sheet run thru a die with heat to fold it over... (laymans terms??)
was there ever a part number for the canadian only 65 66 plastic wire gutter on the rad craddle?
There is for the full size. If you like I can check to see if I can find one for the Beaumont/Chevelle as well.
sure wish someone would reproduce them for A & B body cars. I need alot of them
5738462 group 2.559 is the part for 65-66 Canadian Pontiac and full size Chev. This has to be one of the most elusive part numbers ever. The only way I was able to even find it was the 1966 Canadian Pontiac assembly manual has it in an illustration. Using that part number I went in to the numerical index in the parts book and was able to find it in a Canadian Pontiac parts book dated June 1966. The next issue I have is November 1969 and by then it has completely disappeared from the book, as if it never existed. The other place I found it was in a 1965 Canadian full size Chevrolet parts book dated Feb 1965.
Now, for the Beaumont and Canadian Chevelle part number, I can't find a thing. My oldest Beaumont book is 1969 and it has nothing listed. It's a long shot but does anyone here have a Canadian parts book for Chevelle maybe dated older than 1969? Or a Beaumont parts book dated older than 1969? If so, can you please check for a "Retainer, wiring harness to rad support" in group 2.559?
My Beaumont Parts Book No. 692A, 1964-69 Beaumont, Group 2.559 shows this:
and,
Also found this:
https://www.usa1industries.com/1967-72-chevy-gmc-radiator-support-wiring-gutter.html
It's for a pickup, but maybe the same or close enough?
I also found the one I could not find previously, the wiring gutter across the firewall:
https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Classic-Headquarters-W-160-Camaro-Nova-Chevelle-EC-Firewall-Gutter,116507.html
-- Edited by 66 Beau on Friday 2nd of December 2022 03:11:50 PM
Ok, so that's the same as the Beaumont book I have and it doesn't even mention such a part exists. Hopefully someone has an older book. An older Canadian Chevelle book would work too but it has to be GM of Canada, not the US book.
See my edit - I was typing at the same time as Carl.
Would this work?
https://www.usa1industries.com/1967-72-chevy-gmc-radiator-support-wiring-gutter.html
Could something like this, say in the 3/4"x 48" size be a reasonable fill in until one is reproduced or you find a nice one?
https://www.cabletiesandmore.ca/black-cable-raceway
This?
https://www.amazon.ca/Master-J-Inch-Organizer-Systems-Channel/dp/B00007JQPZ
This looks like the ticket to me. Canadian supplier, includes both the one over the radiator and the one across the firewall...
https://www.classicchevy.ca/oer-1967-72-chevrolet-gmc-wiring-harness-retainer-plastic-wiring-gutter-firewall
Yes, it's for a pickup, but pretty sure it'd work. Might need to be trimmed to shorten it for a Beaumont or Acadian, but should be very close for a full size car.
I think this website provides a better picture of what the part looks like...
https://www.lmctruck.com/1967-72-chevy-gmc/cb-1967-72-plastic-wiring-gutters
It's better than nothing but my friend who is restoring a 66 Impala L72 car said it's not close enough for a nice restoration. However, it's better than that convoluted loom that so many guys use.
Ya, the truck one for across the rad is very similar, probably the closest of all, but it is still very different profile from the original canadian ones
those samples mark posted are interesting, chinese variants, if only they could make it in the proper profile, maybe we should start getting it reproduced? i wonder where a guy would start? what company could manufacture such a part?
I was confirming the style used for the Chevelles & Beaumonts for '67. I figured these are all 1st gen A-bodies. When I check under the hood, the original stuff in my application is more like handlebar tape or even cloth elbow wrap. In this application I believe it is cloth tape. It is original and a little gummy or oily after so many decades. It is wrapped around the whole forward harness, across the rad support hidden & clipped within the rad support channel. That is apparently what they did on the A-bodies in 67. The 65-66 you are saying has a conduit that they run the forward wire through across to the battery side. Hmmm. I wonder if Home Depot might have something, or maybe an arts & crafts store. It might look right but may not meet certain specs in terms of fire retardancy or resiliency with respect to oil. Maybe ribbed heater hose, sliced lengthwise. That would be too thick though. A thinner version would seem like the ticket. What many would do when faced with this is simply run the wire through flexible PVC pipe as they did on 1970s-onward in GMs.
I hear you though, the correct details can make a car stand out.
Red herrings:
1. The U.S. Chevelle AIM for '67 gives tape a part # of 3724851
2. I still have the factory firewall gutter on my car. They often would split over time. Reproductions are available so no big deal.
Carl, i also found a listing in a November 1967 Canadian Pontiac Catalogue that i have.
Yes, full size.
Still hoping someone has an older Beaumont or Chevelle parts book, around 1965-1967
I received a phone call today from a very helpful man who reads Canadian Poncho. He's not a member of the site but was wiling to send me a picture of the parts page in his Canadian 1966 Chevelle parts book. This confirms that the 1965-1966 Canadian Chevelles use the same part number for this wire gutter as the full size 1965-1966 Canadian Pontiacs and full size Chevys.
I think we need to pursue a reproduction of this part. I'm sure there must be a market it for it to restorers.
Carl.. I checked in my Canadian GM parts catalog , #671 Red Cover, 58-67 Chevrolet. This part is listed. I think I have a Canadian poncho book, I'll check it 2moro.
I'm interested in having it reproduced, I think I have at least 3 of them "Sold". I know there is at least one, maybe two needed by JA. He's called me needing even a decent one, which I delivered, but he needs a mint one for an ongoing restoration.
Yes, he's asked me for them as well. I suspect he would be interested in helping fund a reproduction of this piece.
Do we have an idea on "who" could reproduce this? And, is it still possible ?
The only economical way would be an extrusion, and that would be easy.. But it would be extremely difficult to get that pebble grain...wait... this must be a molded part!
The one you (Mark) I have seen is smooth with a sheen. I know nothing about manufacturing/ producing parts... I don't think it's molded, I think it's a flat sheet run thru a die with heat to fold it over... (laymans terms??)
My .02cents