THEY SLIPED IT PAST US ON THE SLY PETITION PARLEMENT CANADA TO REMOVE 10-15% HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE ETHANOL FROM OUR FUEL !
mrford said
April 12th
Hello everyone Ethanol has been added to all our fuel sources in Canada with out our consent it is HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE to older vehicles fuel systems please sign this petition to give us TENS OF THOUSANDS car collectors a option for safe fuel please read this petition and make your own minds up It can be sourced by clicking the link below or at Harrisons auto event list if that doesn't work it only takes a few minutes of your time or a lot of grief later thanks everyone ! https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Sign/e-4735
-- Edited by mrford on Friday 12th of April 2024 05:34:40 PM
-- Edited by mrford on Tuesday 16th of April 2024 10:33:25 AM
-- Edited by mrford on Wednesday 24th of April 2024 09:27:06 AM
-- Edited by mrford on Saturday 4th of May 2024 09:53:06 AM
unruhjonny said
April 12th
it didn't seem to work for me;
unlike normal petitions, this one required a "signature" for which a link was emailed after signing it;
I went to that email account, hit refresh several times till it showed up - but when I clicked the link it said the link was no good?
mrford said
April 12th
Go to Harrison event list look on the right side of page down a bit in with all the adds thanks
Greaser said
April 13th
unruhjonny wrote:
it didn't seem to work for me; unlike normal petitions, this one required a "signature" for which a link was emailed after signing it; I went to that email account, hit refresh several times till it showed up - but when I clicked the link it said the link was no good?
J.
After I finished the first page it took a few minutes and I got an email from the petition.
On that page it asks the question to the effect ....if I understood what I was signing (there was no actual "signature" ) which I clicked on.
Then another page came up and said congratulations I had signed the petition.
That was it.
-G
-- Edited by Greaser on Saturday 13th of April 2024 02:39:42 PM
mrford said
April 16th
Local carburetor shop cant keep up with rebuilds 3 months wait and growing in Vancouver spread the word before we cant source any parts or be able to drive our classics spread the word spread the word sign this petition
I use Seafoam. It is a viable solution. Use it in everything boat ( especially when I only fill the tank maybe once a year), ATV, snow blower, chain saw. Any machine that sits for a period of time between uses.
mrford said
April 17th
Thanks everyone for your reply's, for the price of gas an our carbon/ taxes you would think this should be included in our fuel !
DonSSDD said
April 21st
I use Sea Foam as well, been using it in all carb and non direct injection fuel injection engines.
The Republican Congress just introduced a new bill to authorize E15 for the summer months, they are going the other way.
Our premium fuel contains no ethanol last time I checked which was a couple of years ago, probably should check it again. I have 20+ year old carbs that have not needed anything done to them, using only premium and a dose of sea foam in the tank during storage. Chain saw, snowblower, lawn mower, generator, etc. The AFB in the 409 hasnt been touched since 2010 when I put a new kit in it from The Carburetor Shop, the one with the leather accelerator pump.
mrford said
April 24th
Is everyone happy paying more 10-15% for ethanol each time your filling your tank on top of all the taxes we pay for it !
North said
April 24th
be careful what we wish for!
pontiax said
April 25th
r66sd wrote:
Where can you buy this in Canada?
Its now available on Amazon.
DonSSDD said
April 25th
Sta-bil is a brand I recognize from marine, check marine stores. Widely used in sail, power, and commercial vessels as a fuel tank preservative around here.
mrford said
May 2nd
bump re bump this listing after you sign the petition thanks
CdnGMfan said
May 3rd
For several weeks now this is what I get when I click the link to sign the petition: "We are sorry We couldn't find the page you were looking for. Sometimes a page gets moved or deleted."
I really wanted to sign it, not that it would change the Bigger Agenda.
mrford said
May 3rd
Hello I am no genius when it comes to computers, but when it worked for me I just waited a bit when entering info it was slow an I got a conformation back to my email I went on Harrisons events list its on the right side of page in the business card area good luck spread the word everyone every vote counts or the next thing might be no gas for us !
-- Edited by mrford on Friday 3rd of May 2024 08:26:18 AM
CdnGMfan said
May 3rd
I found it, but it is closed for signing.
History:
Open for signature
December 19, 2023, at 10:49 a.m. (EDT)
Closed for signature
April 17, 2024, at 10:49 a.m. (EDT)
Member of Parliament
Photo - Ed Fast
Ed Fast
Abbotsford
Conservative Caucus
British Columbia
5324 signatures
mrford said
May 4th
They got us again just after we put are cars away on DECEMBER 19 2023 they put out a petition just before Christmas when we are not thinking about our cars safely put away thinking of Christmas, an just before the weekend when car meets in spring start up they end it before we can get the word out APRIL 17 2024 who thinks this is fair I hope when everyone votes this year they think about what the guy leading our country did last election pulling a fast one !
CdnGMfan said
May 4th
This is a common technique used to slip things through without scrutiny. That is how mega-bills work in the U.S. congress. Sneaky and underhanded.
Quote from web page: "STA-BIL 360° Protection protects against the dangers of the new government standard E10 petrol in the UK which contains up to 10% ethanol."
Any idea if it is still effective for 15%?
CdnGMfan said
May 4th
I wonder about a class-action? Once 10,000 people who have had damage & forced repairs get together in a class-action it might get their attention. To knowingly force people to buy fuel that is well-documented to have destructive effects, is to set themselves up for a class-action suite.
The defendants can counter that driving is a privileged, and then will go on to talk about the destruction effects of the automobile on the environment. It will go back and forth because no one party is 100% right.
Na, the government has bottomless pockets for their defence, paid for with tax dollars.
If the car is electric, the EV fan club will support it and they can do no wrong. If it is IC then it can do no right (according to the Green Religion crowd). You can run lights and drive on the sidewalk, or so it would seem. You do realize we have been subsidizing EVs for years.
I will say it again, there is an unstated goal if ridding the highways of older cars and "gross polluters". The funny thing is, when the highways were full of gross polluters the population kept growing. We didn't drop dead by the millions because of it and the planet didn't self-combust. Say it ain't so, Clem.
Did you ever get the feeling that we are surrounded by idiots or groups with a cause? Beware the man with a cause.
Hobbes said
May 4th
Interesting about that fuel additive, being a minority who would listen upstairs , I assume there is always more important work to do , Running all my accessory garden tools , lawn tractor, chainsaw etc etc , premium is a no brainer . Ive not done research into the destructive nature of ethanol, so I am unsure if modern vehicles and any 4 stroke would suffer the same fate , if so , then it would be a great thing to lobby for as it would greatly increase sales for all the so called industry players . The lobbyists are a great government persuader . Far be it for me to be conspiracy fellow , but money seems to speak the loudest ,
Hello everyone Ethanol has been added to all our fuel sources in Canada with out our consent it is HIGHLY DESTRUCTIVE to older vehicles fuel systems please sign this petition to give us TENS OF THOUSANDS car collectors a option for safe fuel please read this petition and make your own minds up It can be sourced by clicking the link below or at Harrisons auto event list if that doesn't work it only takes a few minutes of your time or a lot of grief later thanks everyone ! https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Sign/e-4735
-- Edited by mrford on Friday 12th of April 2024 05:34:40 PM
-- Edited by mrford on Tuesday 16th of April 2024 10:33:25 AM
-- Edited by mrford on Wednesday 24th of April 2024 09:27:06 AM
-- Edited by mrford on Saturday 4th of May 2024 09:53:06 AM
unlike normal petitions, this one required a "signature" for which a link was emailed after signing it;
I went to that email account, hit refresh several times till it showed up - but when I clicked the link it said the link was no good?
Go to Harrison event list look on the right side of page down a bit in with all the adds thanks
J.
After I finished the first page it took a few minutes and I got an email from the petition.
On that page it asks the question to the effect ....if I understood what I was signing (there was no actual "signature" ) which I clicked on.
Then another page came up and said congratulations I had signed the petition.
That was it.
-G
-- Edited by Greaser on Saturday 13th of April 2024 02:39:42 PM
Local carburetor shop cant keep up with rebuilds 3 months wait and growing in Vancouver spread the word before we cant source any parts or be able to drive our classics spread the word spread the word sign this petition
Our only solution?
https://www.sta-bil.co.uk/products/sta-bil-360-protection-ethanol-fuel-treatment-stabilizer-2-sizes
I'm going to use it after the carb rebuild.
Mark, so you drink this stuff strait up or mix it
Canadian tire as far as I know.
I use Seafoam. It is a viable solution. Use it in everything boat ( especially when I only fill the tank maybe once a year), ATV, snow blower, chain saw. Any machine that sits for a period of time between uses.
Thanks everyone for your reply's, for the price of gas an our carbon/ taxes you would think this should be included in our fuel !
The Republican Congress just introduced a new bill to authorize E15 for the summer months, they are going the other way.
Our premium fuel contains no ethanol last time I checked which was a couple of years ago, probably should check it again. I have 20+ year old carbs that have not needed anything done to them, using only premium and a dose of sea foam in the tank during storage. Chain saw, snowblower, lawn mower, generator, etc. The AFB in the 409 hasnt been touched since 2010 when I put a new kit in it from The Carburetor Shop, the one with the leather accelerator pump.
Is everyone happy paying more 10-15% for ethanol each time your filling your tank on top of all the taxes we pay for it !
be careful what we wish for!
Its now available on Amazon.
bump re bump this listing after you sign the petition thanks
For several weeks now this is what I get when I click the link to sign the petition: "We are sorry We couldn't find the page you were looking for. Sometimes a page gets moved or deleted."
I really wanted to sign it, not that it would change the Bigger Agenda.
Hello I am no genius when it comes to computers, but when it worked for me I just waited a bit when entering info it was slow an I got a conformation back to my email I went on Harrisons events list its on the right side of page in the business card area good luck spread the word everyone every vote counts or the next thing might be no gas for us !
-- Edited by mrford on Friday 3rd of May 2024 08:26:18 AM
History:
Open for signature
December 19, 2023, at 10:49 a.m. (EDT)
Closed for signature
April 17, 2024, at 10:49 a.m. (EDT)
Member of Parliament
Photo - Ed Fast
Ed Fast
Abbotsford
Conservative Caucus
British Columbia
5324 signatures
They got us again just after we put are cars away on DECEMBER 19 2023 they put out a petition just before Christmas when we are not thinking about our cars safely put away thinking of Christmas, an just before the weekend when car meets in spring start up they end it before we can get the word out APRIL 17 2024 who thinks this is fair I hope when everyone votes this year they think about what the guy leading our country did last election pulling a fast one !
Quote from web page: "STA-BIL 360° Protection protects against the dangers of the new government standard E10 petrol in the UK which contains up to 10% ethanol."
Any idea if it is still effective for 15%?
I wonder about a class-action? Once 10,000 people who have had damage & forced repairs get together in a class-action it might get their attention. To knowingly force people to buy fuel that is well-documented to have destructive effects, is to set themselves up for a class-action suite.
The defendants can counter that driving is a privileged, and then will go on to talk about the destruction effects of the automobile on the environment. It will go back and forth because no one party is 100% right.
Na, the government has bottomless pockets for their defence, paid for with tax dollars.
If the car is electric, the EV fan club will support it and they can do no wrong. If it is IC then it can do no right (according to the Green Religion crowd). You can run lights and drive on the sidewalk, or so it would seem. You do realize we have been subsidizing EVs for years.
I will say it again, there is an unstated goal if ridding the highways of older cars and "gross polluters". The funny thing is, when the highways were full of gross polluters the population kept growing. We didn't drop dead by the millions because of it and the planet didn't self-combust. Say it ain't so, Clem.
Did you ever get the feeling that we are surrounded by idiots or groups with a cause? Beware the man with a cause.