I think your right, keep it simple and i actually just got done making my own open element air cleaner for it. Since all i can hear is headers right now i guess it doesent matter what i do!!
yeah, i made a deal with the wife that when i got the car im not supposed to be putting much money into it until i put a pool in for her(im ordering it monday). Once the pools in i can go get the rest of the exhaust on and then drive the beast!!
Tonight I thought I'd attempt to adjust the Holley. Most websites say to check fuel level before playing with mixture. Well, I loosen the screw for the sight window and after a couple of turns gas starts spraying out! Whaaa? Ok, so I figure the level is too high (front bowl). I loosen the lock screw on top of the bowl so I can adjust the level. After about 2 turns gas literally sprays all over the place from the top lock nut! Now I have fuel all over the intake (and it's GREAT for removing orange paint!). I shut the car down and again I loosen the top lock screw-it still sprays. I surround it with rags and finally it stops spraying. As soon as I start the car it sprays! I dont think this is normal as the back bowl didn't do this. Anyway, I adjust the level down as best as possible trying to minimize that gas going all over the place. I put it all together and A) It's still really rich (your eyes water when standing behind the car) and B) At about 50mph if I get on it, I have a brief hesitation (at "tip in") which I didn't have before. Perhaps the level is too low? I ran out of time tonight to play with it any further. I'll try to adjust it again before I touch the mixture screws.
Todd Why don't you put a 700R 4 in that will help I have one for the 396 with a 3.08 gears . I'm getting about 20 to 24 if I want power i pull into a lower gear slink
The 700R4 is a good improvement in fuel economy BUT most guys I know who have done it have shifting problems. Your column was originally made for three shift points (two if there is a PG in there) and now you are asking it to catch 4 and it doesn't always work perfectly. Slinky may have the answer for you.
I thought about a 700 and do have one. I need to get this engine leaned out a bit first and then see what my mpg is. Actually I was tossing around the idea of how cool the car would be with a big block and a Tremec 6 speed (with the bench seat). It'd be a big job but it would be awesome!
I bought a four speed shift kit for my console.( shiftworks sells conversion kits 1964-81 GM factory automatic console,column shifters,gauges and in dash tachometers)(www.shiftworks.com/) The people their where good to work with
Things went from bad to worse tonight. I re-adjusted the fuel level and then adjusted the fuel mixture going "by the book" and using a vacuum gauge. I took the car out and it felt good until I got on the highway. When I kicked it down it responded for about 4 seconds then bogged down as if it was leaning out. I pulled over and turned the mixture out about 1/2 turn. It was worse. Am I right in assuming turning the mixture screws left (loose) increases fuel flow or is it the other way around? I got the car home and attempted to start over by turning the screws all the way in and turning them both out 3 turns. The car ran, then stalled and wouldn't restart. I pulled a plug and it was soaked! I let them dry, got the car to barely run enough to get it in the garage and at this point I can't get it started. I think something is wrong inside the carb. I had enough for tonight and likely won't get back to it for a few days. This sucks as I wanted to take the car to the Dorchester car show Sunday. I think I'll save my pennies and buy an Edelbrock carb.
I think I'll save my pennies and buy an Edelbrock carb.
Don't be to quick to buy an Edelbrock.They are suppose to be preset at the factory.The first one would die on a left hand turn.After returning that one I have one that pukes at high RPM's.So my carb problems still continue even with a brand new Edelbrock
I bought a 600cfm Performer. Our Performance ImProvement Guru, Bruce Beattie convinced me to ditch my leaky Q-jet. He set me up with everything I needed, filter, studs, gasket, brackets. He said it was set up for a 350 sbc from the factory running a 14" X 3" tall open element air cleaner. We bolted it all up, put on the spec'd air cleaner, turned the key and it ran, and ran good, never touched an idle mixture or idle speed screw for two years. I was so happy I wrote Vic a letter.
Tonight I got the last piece of my tune up installed, new wires, and I knocked another eight of a turn off the idle mixture and had to reset the idle speed. I am running lean and with power. On the Highway when I drop the hammer the Edelbrock sounds like it is going to suck my NASA hood right into the engine compartment. It really shines at highway speed. Vic makes good stuff.
My advice no matter what you get is not to get too much carb.
Although I haven't tried it yet, I got a brand new 600 vac secondary Holley off a race engine builder in Virginia. It cost me about $239 shipped. Any reviews I saw of his stuff were very positive. I plan to try it on the 350 race car that we built to drag race in our kids mentoring program. We ran the car the first time the other night with a different 600 vac secondary on it, and next time I want to run my carb to see if it's any improvement.
Oh, and this guy claims to run these carbs on the dyno first to set them up before he ships them out. He sends a dyno sheet along with each carb.
-- Edited by Carl Stevenson at 22:41, 2008-07-25
__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I found an Edelbrock 600 manual choke last night. The owner lives in Kitchener and visits his girlfriend in Woodstock every weekend (thats 15 minutes from me) He bought it new and had it on his F*rd truck for about 3 months. The truck is being parted. He said it runs great. Only wants $120 for it so it's not a huge gamble. I might give that a go.
I have a friend with a 650 Holley, I'd like to get it and, let you try it it on car, before you buy .. I can also get you a "deal"on a Edelbrock.. Lets try the used Holley first, it should just bolt on Carl
I took the carb of the engine. I attempted to remove the top to have a look at the floats. It's a Holley 4010 which uses 10 torx screws to remove the complete top cover. I removed the screws and no matter what I tried, the cover would not budge. I rechecked my instructions and online and it should have lifted right off. Fearing I'd damage it trying, I put the screws back in, plopped it back on my engine, reset the float, turned the mixture screws in all the way and then out only 2 turns and hooked the linkage etc back up. I turned it over and...battery dead! What? Not sure how that happened. So.. I hook up my booster pack and turn it over.. the car fires right up but barely idles. I hook up my vacuum gauge and turn the screws out a half turn. Still hot much difference in idle but now my smoke alarm goes off. I throw alarm onto the lawn. By this time the back of my garage is uninhabitable due to the rich exhaust. I turn the screws in till I start to feel resistance. The idles clears up and vacuum increases! Figuring I had nothing to lose, I grab my cell phone and CAA card and go for a drive. The damn thing runs flawless! Not a bog, nothing! I figured now was a good chance to really drive her and that's what I did. She pulled strong up to 70mph (I ran out of road). I turned around and hit 50 and manually geared down and tromped it. She didn't miss a beat. I'll leave it as is for now and see how it continues to run. I need to change the diluted oil. My next concern is how hot it runs (now that I have gauges I'm paranoid!) It runs at a steady 225. That's 3/4 of my temp gauge. My t-stat is new however I don't know what temp it's rated at.
So, I don't know what I did different. Perhaps the float was stuck and pulling it off and moving it around caused it to free up.
Congrats Could be as simple as knocking out a small spec of dirt in your carb,that can cause alot of problems. As for your temp.If you run a steady temp it's good.When it goes pass that point.Get out that AAA card.
I once had a carb that was sputtering and frustrating me to the point that I gave it three sharp wacks with the handle end of a big Craftsmans screwdriver. It never gave me any trouble again !
I once had a carb that was sputtering and frustrating me to the point that I gave it three sharp wacks with the handle end of a big Craftsmans screwdriver. It never gave me any trouble again !
Todd you are a "Carb Master".
Thats my motto beat it up , before it beats you. congratulations, you are now a "Master Tech" lol lol
We'll see what kind of Carb Master I am tomorrow when I cold start it. Knowing how things have been going for me, the battery will be dead and I'll some sort of draw that cropped up since swapping that cluster! Never a dull moment!
I borrowed a carb once-the vacuum hoses were tucked the butterfly area-I bolted it on the car pulled the hoses out, hooked up the linkage-noticed one of all the vacuum hoses was not plugged with a screw so put one in it-started up the engine-guess the hose that had no screw must have fallen out in the carb ! anybody guess what happed next !
If you have access to one of those nifty thermometers you could check if it is actually running 225. I don't have a whole pile of faith in factory gauges as far as accuracy. While they are likely consistent, it would be good to know if it's actually that hot.
__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
