I was looking for the "Pontiac name plate" for the rear of my Ventura II.. Someone here, directed me, to a e-bay listing, for a Lemans emblem... The emblem has the letters, attached with a line of chrome at bottom... Anyway, I won the emblem, and it arrived,(and was the same as Ventura II) and was a "NEW N.O.S. item!!!!!!!!! I tried to find the post,(couldn't) that told me, who found it... You know who you are . SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH......