I posted this in the other string that has the harness photo's: NAPA part #'s for the terminals are: 784490 GM 56 Series Male Terminal 18-14 Ga, 5 pieces. 784491 GM 56 Series Female Terminal 18-14 Ga, 5 pieces.
The last time I checked at my local NAPA, I couldn't find the pins. I got more at my local AC Delco dealer, but they were grey colored not brass. Color really doesn't matter as they're buried within the plastic cover.
mark, found a couple more GM spade terminal numbers... 2965429 male end ( style used in the bulkhead connector) 2977615 female end (.31" wide, .83" total length) 6294068 female end (.38" wide, .90" total length) these are from an '82 GM standard parts catalog, don't know if they're still available though...
Here are the 3 standard ones used on all GM cars of the 50s and 60s. The 2 brass ones are the male and female connectors. They are availabel from just about any aftermarket resto catalogs. The best price is .25 cents each from "classic parts of america." They work great.
I build all my own harnesses and these are for sure the way to go!
The other one in the photo is the "GM twin-loc." It was used on all bulkhead(fuse panel) connections on any 58-67 GM, chevelle, beaumont, etc. It is WAY harder to find. GM part number is 2973915. I have only found them from GM and the price is a huge 2.50 per connector and you have to buy 25 at a time.
fuseable links are a pain in the arse. yes they will pop when heated, thats the premice behind them,when they get overloaded, they heat, then pop. AND THEY STILL LOOK GOOD!The link can be by-passed with a short piece of wire, but soldering them, solder a distance away from the link,8-10 inches min. then rewrap the join at the solder to cover the connection
Thanks for the part numbers guys. I learn somthing worth saving just about every day here!
A quick question to our CP "Harness builders"...
Can you solder splice Fusible links into a harness, or do you need to use a crimping connector? Like the factory would have done in 69'.
Cheers, Mark.
Good question, ive never owned a car new enough to have "fuseable links."
Are you sure Dave? My Acadian has a fusible link and I was sure it was factory installed by the look of it. It's right at the postive cable where the red wire comes off and runs across to the horn relay.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Really? Ive never seen them on pre 69ish cars and trucks. Ive had lots of originals, but allways a direct red wire from battery accross to the horn relay.
I will admit my 71 truck does have one. It is about a 12" square w/ a small hole in the center, then protected by a black plastic cover.
67s have a junction block. kind of a black plastic block with a screw terminal on it, located on the core support just aft the battery. Maybe that is what you are thinking of???
Got any pics?
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MY BEAUMONT HAS 4 STUDDED TIRES AND 2 BLOCKHEATERS......AND LOTS OF OIL UNDERNEATH. The other one has a longer roof.
Really? Ive never seen them on pre 69ish cars and trucks. Ive had lots of originals, but allways a direct red wire from battery accross to the horn relay.
I will admit my 71 truck does have one. It is about a 12" square w/ a small hole in the center, then protected by a black plastic cover.
67s have a junction block. kind of a black plastic block with a screw terminal on it, located on the core support just aft the battery. Maybe that is what you are thinking of???
Got any pics?
I can check my photobucket. I can't lift the hood on my car right now for a pic because it's got no hinges on it and as you saw, it's right under the mezzanine in the shed. I hope to move it over to the garage this weekend so maybe then.
The only reason I remember it's there is I had to chance the end where it connects to the positive battery end and I did it long ago. Guess what I used? One of those nice big yellow butt connectors........
That will be changed now when I am detailing underhood!
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Look to the extreme right side. See the yellow connector? If you look up from it a little way, you see what looks like a piece of rubber hose on that wire before it goes through the cradle grommet? Between that beautiful yellow connector I installed and that hose-type piece is fusible link. The hose type connector is where it changes back into regular wire.
By any chance would it be because the car has a factory ammeter and they apparently could be a fire hazard?
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
Here's an answer re soldering to the fusible links. On my 70 2+2, there is one right at the battery, and I think another over by the voltage regulator. The positive battery cable that I bought had a short pigtail, and it needed to connect to the fusible link that goes to a small plastic junction block behind the battery. I was able to salvage a fusible link from another car, then soldered it to the pigtail on the battery cable. If I recall, it was quite tough to solder though. Once finished, I covered the solder with heat shrink tubing.
Instead of soldering, you can use the inside part of a butt connector, just cut the plastic jacket off. Crimp the connector, and cover it with heat shrink tubing (remember to put the heat shrink on the wire first, slide it in to place after crimping, then heat it to shrink it). The pigtial is black, the fusible link is brown, and use black heat shrink tubing. On my car the line kind of hides behind the battery, and to date no one has pointed it out.
I think you might be correct on the 'Ammeter" part. I know on my trucks they use a tiny 4 amp glass in-line fuse on both sides of the ammeter. Only on Ammeter equipped trucks.
Now that i see your pic, i recognise that black rubber cylinder. I just cant remember what otehr 60's cars ive seen them on.
So are you saying that if you cut that black rubber apart, there is a fuseable link metal inside?
Check the back pages of your green 65 beaumont service manual, you will see what i mean, no mention of fusable links til 66 or 67.
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MY BEAUMONT HAS 4 STUDDED TIRES AND 2 BLOCKHEATERS......AND LOTS OF OIL UNDERNEATH. The other one has a longer roof.
I checked my manual and of course you are correct. Nothing showing.
No, the fuse link starts at the rubber connector and goes from it to where you see that beautiful yellow butt connector. It's basically absent in the picture.
And to add to this, somewhere I have seen the formula for what length and size of fusible link to run for whatever the application is.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
and you know what happens then........