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There was a 409 equipped wagon traded in at the Dodge dealership in Carnduff Saskatchewan in the late 70's-early 80's. It was a 63 four speed equipped car, if my memory serves me right. It was a silver-blue color.

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ga wrote:

63/64s are my favs, id make it a nice presentable driver and take

it out on nice days and check myself out in the reflections of store front

windows. its only a car and thats what its for. I know a 100 point

resto would be nice , but too expensive and the alternative is another

40 years languishing un done and collecting dust in a garage, and that

is at least as bad or worse then a nice weekend cruiser level resto.

old cars have souls and are sad to never be driven



YES! I second that

 



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I wonder if it's still for sale???

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This must be the same car that was on ebay about 4 or maybe 5 years ago. The guy moved to Florida-he was originally from the Pas Manitoba or somewhere near there. The car was sold new in Neepawa Manitoba. The original engine is still with the family that bought it new I was told from someone who grew up there. It was Murrays I believe and I could be wrong in Neepawa that sold it new. I actually phoned about it and he sent me a copy of the GM Docs. I think I finally threw them away. It is very rare but its also really rough and it's a Canadian Pontiac NOT a Chevy , sorry but that doesn't make it more valuable it just makes it rare-hey I love Canadian Pontiacs and have a 61 FAKE 348 tri-power bubbletop stick posi car but its worthless compared to a 61 Bel Air or Impala bubbletop-just the way it is but I love it and wouldn't trade it for any Chevy. The guy wants way too much money and he will never sell it for anywhere near what he was or is asking. And yes the running driving car Aubrey has is a 63 340 horse 4 speed and the rough Sunfire Red car is a 64 also a 4 speed 340 horse.

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I think fake cars are better than factory built cars. To me there's no value in imaginary value, if that make any sense

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1963 Canadian-built Pontiac Parisienne Safari Factory 409 2X4 bbl 4 speed


Looking for this car saw a post a bit back...it was one of my husbands first cars he drove with his dad does anyone know any info about it the owner lived in clearwater florida i believe thanks :)



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Hey guys,.

I came across this listing on the net.  It's a factory 1963 Canadian-built Pontiac Parisienne Safari Factory  409  2X4 bbl   4 speed.  This is one rare beast! ( if it's "actual" as stated).  He's asking $85,000.00! Anyone got a cheque book handy? smile.gif
Sure would be nice to get the cowl tag numbers and photo for the Canadian Pontiac Registry!  Anyone think that's it's actually worth anywhere close to the $85,000.00 UNRESTORED ?! The car is in Florida right now.  Sure would be nice to know the history .,,,on how a dual quad 409 4spd Safari from Neepawa Manitoba made it to Florida!  Lets do some digging for info. Anyone up to contacting the owner and asking for the tag numbers and history? 

Anyway, .... Here is the link

http://www.automotivetraveler.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=821&Itemid=345

I've added these photos and the article in case the link gets removed.

The following is from the article:
"""One who contacted me about what might be the rarest muscle car in existence, a one-of-one Canadian built (at the same Oshawa, Ontario plant that currently builds the Camaro) Pontiac Parisienne Safari six-passenger station wagon powered by a 425-horsepower dual quad 409, the same engine immortalized by the Beach Boys song "409."

When I spoke with George Kelly about his Safari the first thing I did was to verify his claim that such a car was indeed built by Pontiac/GM of Canada Limited (because of the trade restrictions at the time, GM Canada built some unique cars, among them the Beaumont which was covered previously on automotivetraveler.com). With the help of the Pontiac Historical Society (PHS) who verified the VIN and a copy of the 1963 Canadian full-line brochure, which clearly shows that such an engine was offered, we know that the car is the real deal. The car was built on 18 June 1963 and shipped the next day to Murray's Garage in Neepawa, Manitoba. (Do any automotivetraveler.com readers live near Neepawa and can verify if there still is a Pontiac dealer in the area, someone who might have additional details on the car?) In a letter dated 24 January 2001to Mr. Kelly, George Zapora, a vintage specialist at GM Canada Limited stated that the car has the same mechanical specifications as the US Chevrolet model 1835 which according to the Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975 is a six-passenger 1963 Impala station wagon. Apparently the Canadian-built Pontiacs were built on the same platform as south-of-the-border-built Bowties.

"I've always looked upon the car as the Mona Lisa of muscle cars," says owner George Kelly. "As with the original Mona Lisa, she is slightly over weight being a long roof, it has a dark complexion (Tuxedo Black paint), and you definitely grin from ear-to-ear as you work your way up through the four gears to the howl of the two wide open AFBs." Former Super Chevy editor Doug Marion told George that to his knowledge no dual quad, 425-horsepower, 4-speed manual 1963 Chevy Impala station wagons were built, making this quite possibly the only such station wagon in existence, either from Pontiac or Chevy. George does note that the engine that is being sold with the car isn't the original, but it's got a history too. It's a date-correct 409 dual quad race motor built by Gordon Marks so it's probably the next best thing to a numbers-matching block.

While its condition can be charitably called rough, it is a complete car with a date-correct dual quad 409 engine. George has an $85,000 asking price on the car and while his wife says the car has to go--they need the space--if he doesn't get his price, he may just restore the car himself. Does any of us have any idea of what a fully restored 409 1963 Pontiac Safari six-passenger station wagon would be worth? Occasionally similar cars surface, like the 1967 Ford Country Squire with a 428 and 4-speed top loader with the buckets and console out of a high line XL model. When they do and are properly documented, they sell for big dollars. As no factory-installed and documented Hemi-equipped B-body station wagon wagons have yet to emerge from some barn, this may very well be the highest horsepower grocery getter on the planet and for some Poncho fan, would represent one of the ultimate Pontiac collectibles.

Contact the seller through automotivetraveler.com. The car is currently located in Florida and George can arrange an in-person inspection and can supply additional documentation, including its Department of the Treasury/United States Customs Service paperwork when the Safari was imported into the United States in 2006. """

 
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RE: 1963 Canadian-built Pontiac Parisienne Safari Factory 409 2X4 bbl 4 speed


Hi I just saw this post do you know how i can get ahold of these people i clicked on the link to no avail.  Also did you ever find out anymore info? thanks



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It's a crazy story! One day I will build my dream 1965 Parisienne, 409 convertible-5 speed-Custom Sport. My father bot a '65 Parisienne convert 283PG new, the car always stayed with me even tho he traded it on 1969 for a '67 Cadillac Sedan De Ville. I bot a '65 Grand Prix, loaded, last summer. Love the lines

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RE: 1963 Canadian-built Pontiac Parisienne Safari Factory 409 2X4 bbl 4 speed


ITS LOOKING IN BAD NEED 0F RESTORATION !

EVEN RESTORED, 85,000  confuseno

JUST MY THOUGHT.



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Is this one of the wagons that were owned by "Aubrey" in Manitoba???    Anyone remember his cars?   I recall, he built a 59 Chevy or GMC hauler and drove across Canada to haul two cars back out west.  I used to follow his explodes years ago, can't even remember the time period, maybe late 90's.



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no, Aubrey Bruneau is from Alberta and his car was red

This black one is originally from Neepawa Manitoba if i remember correctly??



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I'm going to merge this thread with the other thread about the same car.

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1963 Canadian-built Pontiac Parisienne Safari Factory 409 2X4 bbl 4 speed


....quote...."George does note that the engine that is being sold with the car isn't the original...."

...first red flag...

As an apprentice of 19 years old working at York Mills Pontiac in Toronto Fall 64 to Spring 65 I was all over

anything 409 in a Canadian Pontiac. We had two I can vividly remember a black 2 door post Strato-Chief and a green Custom Sport

that I helped do the PDI on....both 4 speed cars ..... and I believe both 400hp cars.

Never heard anyone (and there was more than a couple hi-po guys there) talk about a 409 Poncho wagon and never saw one,



-- Edited by bjburnout on Sunday 4th of December 2016 09:45:39 PM

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