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Another '75 Canadian Cup sighting


At the Cumberland Village car show July 18th just east of Ottawa this nice '75 Pontiac LeMans Canadian cup showed up. This is a different car to the one that is currently for sale on Kijiji in the Ottawa area. The owner, Louis, purchased the car in Renfrew a number of years ago and has recently completed the restoration. Notice it has the larger Grand Am style louvered window, the other car has the opera windows. Chatted Louis up on the website so we will see....biggrin

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Sharp car!!

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Way to go Jonno! Nice looking GT!

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I should give credit to my buddy Peter who took the photos!

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The only thing missing in that car is a clutch! Was it even an option?

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87 player bird wrote:

The only thing missing in that car is a clutch! Was it even an option?



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73SC wrote:

87 player bird wrote:

The only thing missing in that car is a clutch! Was it even an option?



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1975 LeMans  Transmission offerings included a three-speed manual standard with the six-cylinder and 350 two-barrel V8, with the three-speed Turbo Hydra-matic optional with those engines, a "mandatory" option with all other engines in sedans and coupes, and standard on the Safari wagons. The Hurst-shifted four-speed manual was no longer offered.

 



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OK 427carl, is that three speed manual a column shift or a floor shift and do you have pictures of either?

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Three on tree.

-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 20th of July 2010 05:12:13 PM

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In a seperate but related question:

How many Canada Cup GT's were built in 1975?

Was the 350 SBC standard with the 400 being the upgrade?

How many blue Quebec versions?

All with white bucket interiors?. I saw that BillGT's car, the one that is currently on kijiji has a stock steering wheel, where as the car in this thread has the sport wheel, so I guess that was optional?

One last thing, the Canadian Cup GT made a comeback in the downsized '78 LeMans, how many of those built.

Thanks,   smile

-- Edited by Jonno on Wednesday 11th of August 2010 04:04:24 PM

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As usual great questions. 75cancup is one of our experts on these cars but I do know a good deal as well.

When documents are issued on these cars from Vintage Vehicle Services they always show 1,732 of this model of cars made but I believe this is actually the number of LeMans GT's made in Oshawa in 1975. These Cup cars are far more rare. Many people believe that each GM zone office was alotted a car or two. There were about 48 zones in Canada at the time. Cars sent to Quebec were painted blue and white and instead of the Maple Leaf got a fleur dis lise. Every car I have ever seen has the white interior with black accents. Every LeMans option was available on these cars so no two should be identical. This explains the steering wheel difference.

In order to purchase a GT option pack which this is you had to order any V8 first. The optional V8's were a 350 2bbl and a 350 4bbl, both 350's were Chevrolet. The Pontiac 400 4 bbl was also optional and very few are known to exist in Cup cars. This was year one for catayltic converters and year one for no dual exhausts so HP was 145 net, 165 net and 185 net.

Also note that the GT was optional on both Colonade hardtops and Sport Coupes but only Sport Coupes got the Canada Cup treatment. Sport Coupes had either louvers on the quarter window or formal opera style quarter window, these opera style cars being the rarest.

I don't know anything about 1978 models and have only ever seen one photo.

 



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OK, now were there other special editions for '76 and '77 in the LeMans line?

I do remember that there may have been an Olympic Edition for '76 or at least Olympic stickers on the rear windows of some cars to celebrate Pontiac's involvement in the Montreal Olympics.

For '78 there was the Can-Am, but I don't think that was sold in Canada.

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All years from 72 to 77 there was a LeMans GT, very rare from 73 on.

Olympic version for sure in 1976.

Two prototype 78 Can Ams built, never produced.

We have threads on all of these, just have to find them in the archives.

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Actually I ment '77 Can Ams which I believe were not sold in Canada.

The two '78 Can Ams is interesting.

Thanks!    smile

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Correct, 1977 Can Ams never sold in Canada, just over 1300 made. They used 400 TA or 403 Olds (Californoia)  engines depending on state polution control rules.

I do know a guy with a Can Am in Toronto presently going through a frame off, it was a Kentucky car originally. He also has the rare 4 speed 73 Grnad Am.

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Jonno Thanks for the great pics it's nice to see this car again. See i almost bought it myself as a second cup edition . If i am correct this is a 350 chev car with basic gauges ( no tac ) and no rear factory sway bar ? Former owner drove a Mac tool truck ?

As for pontiac powered cup editions i know of 6 left including myown.

Hope the new owner stops in .

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Say Mike, have you every come accross a Quebec version of these cars?



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My friend Rheal told me he saw a blue Quebec edition at the recent big Granby show.

Anyone got pictures?

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SOME BODY....Track that car down and photograph it.

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I saw a pic once along time ago of a blue cup edition . I would love to see a pic or a car itself and i am interested in the factory paint code .

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I'm working on it. My pal tells me I'm dreaming and he never mentioned seeing a '75 Quebec edition at the Granby show after all! Where is Bill Sherk when you need him!

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There is a '78 "CUP" car for sale on KIJIJI Calgary, car is actually located in Strathmore. LOok's to be a pretty nice car.

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Hi everyone new to the site here i to had a 75 gt canada cup edition sold it many years ago and regret it everyday. I will try and upload some photos,they are not very good but all i have . I also know of one more sitting in storage in south/west manitoba ,was his dad,s car that he had purchased new from a dealer,and there is no way they will be selling the car,already asked that question.



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That was a great looking LeMans! Any idea where it is now?


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No gone and never seen again. Sure had some good times ,remember racing with it had her up to 135mph ,logged in some time in that back seat to if i remember right,or would like to think i did.Sure would like to know where it ended up .I believe it was someone from southern manitoba that bought it that it why i was so interested in the other one from south manitoba thinking maybe it was mine,ended up not being it(no sunroof) .

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