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That is what I thought was done Carl. As you see the car is advertised as having a wider track. Either the wheels are wider or the offset is different or the chassis parts are different. Given the claim that there is more car between the wheels it would seem to me that offset was used do accomplish this. Will be interested in your findings as I never thought Canadian Pontiacs were wide trackers.
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I am not sure but I would guess that the American cars may have used the 14 inch station wagon wheels The 8 lug optional wheels were 15 inch and wider
The wider 6" wheels as a standard item on Canadian Pontiacs really came in for the 1968 model year. Full-size Chevy & Cdn Poncho wagons were already using the wider wheels back to 1965 (I think). Wouldn't the wider wheel actually affect the offset slightly all by itself as a function of how offset is measured?
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I found a Poncho ad that my limited computor skills will not allow me to post, but it states, Quote, Pontiac rides on wide track for 1968. Wheels and tires are wider, set further apart so there's more car between the wheels. end Quote. Kind of ambiguous don't you think? It's definately a Canadian ad as the powerplant spec'd is the 327 or the optional 396 or 427. Wish I could figure out how to post the ad....damn.
This wording in the ad is consistent with the 1969 wording as well.
Cheviac wrote:I found a Poncho ad that my limited computor skills will not allow me to post, but it states, Quote, Pontiac rides on wide track for 1968. Wheels and tires are wider, set further apart so there's more car between the wheels. end Quote. Kind of ambiguous don't you think? It's definately a Canadian ad as the powerplant spec'd is the 327 or the optional 396 or 427. Wish I could figure out how to post the ad....damn.
From another thread posted originally by Todd.
Carl, just tried to send you the ad but failed, I'm looking at the picture and can't mail it, so frustrating. I pulled it from an american pontiac website that pointed out that these are not american cars though they apear to be. Note the ad doesn't say the suspension is wide track, the WHEELS and TIRES are. To me that implies a wide track stance like the american cars but not really. By the way....ever tried to put a 6 inch ralley on an american 66? The rear axle is so wide you have to unbolt the shock to drop the axle far enough to get the wheel on.
From what I could find on line 68 impala front track 62.5 rear 62.4 68 Parisienne 63.5 front and 63.4 rear. Looks like and inch difference.
Look at the 69 brochure. Just about every page says wide track. Also shows track as 63.5 and 63.4. Maybe just wider tires alround.
In the '68 Brochure it states: 63.5" front tread (a wider tread for the Wide-Track ride). Also states: low-profile 8.25x14" tires - 63.4 rear tread. And 14x6" Wide-Track safety rims. So must be all in the rims and tires. I scanned the page but Brochure is larger than my scanner.
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dualquadpete wrote:last I'd say the "offset" on the wheel is where they are getting the 1"
last I'd say the "offset" on the wheel is where they are getting the 1"
This is what I always thought to be true and in reading the copy it all dicusses wheels and wider tires for that Wide Track ride.
"Wide Track" and associated wording was more than likely trademarked by Pontiac.
No question Pete, I can spot a US Pontiac from 50 yards away. There was a 62 Grand Prix at Autofest with the 8 lug wheels and that pretty much defines the wide track look. The GP was lower and appeared wider not to mention longer than a comparable Canadian car like a Parisienne.
This is fro the 68 U.S. brochure and looks like our Canadian pontiacs for 68 have a 1/2 in. wider track in the front than the U.s versions. But about 1/2 in. smaller in the rear.