Today I'm picking up 3 feet of 5/16 fuel line and a jug of gas. This thing has been sitting probably 15 years or so. No gas cap either. Tank is likely full of body dust, but who knows? I'm going to throw a battery in it, pour some fuel down the carb, stick a fuel hose from the jug to the fuel pump and cross my fingers for luck.
Someone has converted this to an electronic ignition of some sort. Not recognizing it. Hope it works. There's bound to be some wires off somewhere. It would sure be nice if it ran decently. I put the ignition switch from the parts car in yesterday. I thought I needed the cylinder. When I went to play with it, just the bezel was in the hole. The old switch assembly had already been thieved !
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Unbelievable......it had some clouds of black smoke and ran on about four cylinders until I lubed up the choke and got it opening. Runs incredibly smooth, no smoke, no knocking or ticking. Had to tighten the left exhaust nuts. "Tis an amazing event.
Bogs a bit when I give it gas because the accelerator pump isn't working, but that's to be expected. Was a new carb not long before it was parked, but the years haven't been kind to it.
At idle it barely charges, but when I rev it up just a bit, the needle on my meter goes to around 14 volts. Still has it's original style generator. The electronic ignition mounted on the firewall, has a red light on it. I took that as a good sign. Glad it's working.
Now, do I throw it up for sale for a few days, or start working on the brakes next, so it can be driven? Hard to say. Still a million things that need tending to.
For the moment, I'll be happy with the success of today.
Good show, does the trans shift? just drive it up and down the driveway, use the e-brake.
Not sure about the tranny. The car is running from a hose hanging out of a jerrycan on the concrete. It'll have to wait for another day. Didn't see any tranny fluid on the garage floor, and it ran for at least 15-20 minutes. I suppose that's a plus :)
When I'm a bit braver, I'll put gas in the tank and hook it back up. The gauge goes all the way to the right, so I guess my sending unit ground wire is bad. Might even look for a gas cap !!
what I like to do with old tanks.. is disconnect the line like you have.. use a cheapie electric fuel pump.. drain down the old gas this way.. then put about 2gal of fresh stuff slosh the car some.. then pump it down again.. filter the gas and re use..
that way you can see what is coming out of the tank before hand. put back in to service.. you sill want to install a clear fuel filter once you start moving things around..sure enough there will be scale and rust working its way from the tank.
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That's great news! It also sounds like your generator is doing the right thing. A generator does not charge at idle. That's why there was a switch to alternators as they charge at idle.
I'd stick with the "jerry can" !!!! Who knows what the lines & tank are like & no sense sucking all that crap into the F/pump & carb & screwing up a running engine IMOP!! Pete
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I'd stick with the "jerry can" !!!! Who knows what the lines & tank are like & no sense sucking all that crap into the F/pump & carb & screwing up a running engine IMOP!! Pete
That remains to be seen. I can put a block behind the rear wheel and see if the tranny works. If it does, maybe some brake work. Then there's the gas tank issue......no shortage of things :)
I sure like listening to it run, with that nice, quiet single exhaust I put in. Took about twelve or thirteen hours to fit it in right. Used all the best hangers from both cars. Tough without a hoist, though. Lots of cussing. Good thing I'm retired. If my time had any value, the exhaust would be worth a fortune !!
And I know if I pass it on, the next owner will garbage the single and run duals. Hmmm.......may have to keep it, after all :)
Speaking of duals, I'm still missing my dual antennas. Might have to hit the "Parts Wanted" forum soon.
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Looks like the car had a new master before it was parked. Maybe a new booster as well. I think I'll pull the master and clean it out. It'll be full of rust. Give it a good scouring with the hone, and see how smooth it gets. The rubber might still be good. If not, I'll buy a new master. They're probably all of $40 or so. The fuel tank, I'll have to dwell on a bit. I pulled the one out of the parts car, and it wasn't a fun job. The rusty bolts always break, and I think I even ripped a strap. As usual, I broke the ground wire. I never seem to be able to pull a tank without breaking that wire. Like a mental block or something. Broke at least two or three this year alone !
My mistake on the price of a master. Just got off the phone with Lordco. $95-$125 depending on which bore size.
Guess I'm for sure honing out the old one.
-- Edited by HonestDave on Wednesday 31st of December 2014 07:15:13 PM
Just had an excellent idea. I'll put a clear filter right after the hard line, before the pump. I can get gas in the tank and not have to bother with cleaning or pulling the tank right now. There's already a filter between the pump and carb.
As usually, the lazy man will find a way !!
Good temporary measure, anyway, I suppose.
Right you are, Greaser. Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like. Sometimes they polish up nicely and the rubbers are okay. Worth a try anyway. If I can only find room on the workbench.........
I was thinking of looking at a 67 2+2 hardtop out in Chilliwack for $2500, or a 65 Parisienne convertible in Abbotsford for around $3500, but my wife figures I should just keep on this one for a while. It's hard, though. The urge to buy more terrorizes me !!
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I hear ya.......I really do need to stay the course. Now I've found the engine to be decent, I should focus on transmission. I so easily spin off course.
I also need a warm day so I can clamp down the roof again. It is shrunken to nothingness, and I'll not spend money on a new top.
They were close to a thousand bucks last time I got one done. Probably two or three big ones by now. I think I was in my twenties last time I did one.......yikes.......where did the time go?
Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like.
With 4 of them being under 43.00 US....I wouldn't waste my time.
How old is the one you got?.....what's your time worth? How much is a rubber kit?
I personally would feel better (safer) with one that's new....honing it yourself and replacing irubbers with a kit has to cost you more in time and money than buying a new one..
Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like.
With 4 of them being under 43.00 US....I wouldn't waste my time.
How old is the one you got?.....what's your time worth? How much is a rubber kit?
I personally would feel better (safer) with one that's new....honing it yourself and replacing irubbers with a kit has to cost you more in time and money than buying a new one..
Just me thinking Dave.
The thing is, if I get the master working good enough to test the transmission, I can make my next decision. I don't want to spend money if I don't need to. It will ad no value to the car. If I sell it, whoever buys it will rip out the master and put on a complete front disc system. Almost every car I get now, has disc brakes and Flowmasters. The kids today don't think a car is driveable on drums. In most cases I find if the shoes aren't arced to the exact curve of the drums, they're right.
I'm rambling, must be bed time. I'm retired, so my time has little value. If I decide to keep this car a while, things may get done a little differently. I'm still at the decision making stage. To keep or not to keep, that is a big question.
