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Classic car Crash 407 Brampton 3 Dead


Just sad.

http://www.cp24.com/news/three-people-dead-after-hwy-407-collision-in-brampton-1.3000228

Fatal collision



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I just came by this accident an hour or two ago. Nasty.

What also bothered me was the stopped cars and people lined up on the Mississauga Rd. overpassso they can take pictures and film the carnage. These people almost caused more accidents up there.

 

Anyway, sad, sad situation.

 

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I can't make out what kind of car it is. A 30's hot rod? Very sad indeed.

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-- Edited by pontiax on Monday 25th of July 2016 06:02:50 AM

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Looks like a rat rod. It didn't say it caught fire ... did it?



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Unfortunately, it sounds like it did catch fire after being T-boned by a motor coach.  They are saying the cause was a blown tire on the '48 Chevy.  

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/highway-407-crash-1.3693198

My thoughts are with the victims' families.  cry



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CP24 ( local news station out of Toronto ) is confirming a 48 Chev and resulting fire.

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The update of the story now says a fire. Sad.



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Very sad situation.

Was very scary night last night for us last night, as good friends of ours drive the same body car but a '47 and that crash site is only about a 20 minute drive from our home. Finally spoke to them before bed last night. They are safe as it was not them.

I know there are people that did not have such luck last night as me hearing from our friends being safe from their trip home. These people and their friends and family are in our thoughts and prayers.

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Members of the Brampton Street Rodders club, Chad Harpley and his parents.

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It appears to be a 46-7-8, Torpedo back. i think it is a small body, so likely a Chev. But with the roundness of the rear section , I think it could be a Canadian Pontiac. Not 100% sure but that would be my guess. I may have burnt , but it might just be "patiena'd" over. Most unfortunate either way.



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...noted by norontcan earlier.....reported on CP24 it was a 48 Chev and resulting fire........



-- Edited by bjburnout on Tuesday 26th of July 2016 03:53:44 PM

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There are some graphic videos on social media of this crash. The car was basically a fireball in the ditch, took firefighters a good 5 minutes to get the blazed out. In the meantime two passengers were on the shoulder and CPR was being performed on them for 5 to 10 minutes until the paramedics called it off and covered the bodies. Good Samaritans pulled the two front passengers out and onto the shoulder before the car erupted. The rear passenger was never extricated from the videos I watched.  It would seem that the violent T-Bone by the motor coach and roll over killed them all, God knows that safety features of a 1948 Chev (as confirmed by OPP) were marginal or non-existant.

This sort of scene is very sobering and just drives home how incompatible our classic cars are with modern cars and modern traffic. It does seems that the driver of the '48 was staying to the right lane minding his own business. Such a tragedy.



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Hard to say if the result would have been different in a modern car. Getting t-boned by a motor coach is a pretty violent event. I guess it would depend on what type of late model car you were driving.

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While Ray makes some good points - the lack of safety equipment is something I think about when driving a classic - there comes a point where the forces are so great that no safety equipment is going to save you.  When you're talking such differences in mass, any car doesn't have a chance.

Obviously safety equipment can make a difference in lesser crashes, but IMHO driving an old car without today's safety equipment and design is an individual choice one must make, and driving a classic car is certainly no more dangerous than riding a motorcycle or bicycle in terms of physical impact with larger vehicles.  It's all about how you want to live your life, and risk vs reward in a broader sense.

My heart goes out to the family - especially in light of all the video of their loved ones dying that Ray mentioned to be circulating online.  I can't imagine the motivation of somebody posting such stuff, but then I guess that's why I don't do twitter and facebook, I don't see the sense in most of it.



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While Ray makes some good points - the lack of safety equipment is something I think about when driving a classic - there comes a point where the forces are so great that no safety equipment is going to save you.  When you're talking such differences in mass, any car doesn't have a chance.

Obviously safety equipment can make a difference in lesser crashes, but IMHO driving an old car without today's safety equipment and design is an individual choice one must make, and driving a classic car is certainly no more dangerous than riding a motorcycle or bicycle in terms of physical impact with larger vehicles.  It's all about how you want to live your life, and risk vs reward in a broader sense.

My heart goes out to the family - especially in light of all the video of their loved ones dying that Ray mentioned to be circulating online.  I can't imagine the motivation of somebody posting such stuff, but then I guess that's why I don't do twitter and facebook, I don't see the sense in most of it.


 Could not have put it any better than Mark has here. Every time i go out in my 57 Pontiac, i know the ramifications because of how nutsy things are out there. I have my cars in the absolute best of shape and i ALWAYS drive in a safe and courteous manner but i know that is not always enough. This really is a very sobering reality but it is the same sobering reality in a new car.



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Attached is a picture from facebook. Taken hours bedore the accident.  it is upsetting when you see those coach buses flying down the highway passing most cars. I am sure that was a contributing factor although who can say if the result would have been any different.  

it is sad that people don't respect the old cars like they used to.  When I was young riding in the Impala with my grandfather i felt like totality.  Everyone always smiles and have lots of room and respect the old car.  Now they are treated like farm tractors.  It's sad. 

I have read Comments that this car had no business on the highway.  In the pictures it looks like it had the running gear to run the highway and witness say he was cruising on the right minding his own business.  I think it's just shit luck. their number was up and we all don't know when ours comes up.  All was can do it be responsible to make sure it does not come up earlier then need be. 



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Always, too many armchair experts. Sadly in the 24 hours after this, at least 3 people have passed away around London, in crashes of modern cars.
My heart goes out to all the families and I think of them as I try my best to get my co-workers back and forth each day in my bus



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I really don't want to view the graphic online video. Some things are better left alone. RIP.



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It is sad that people don't respect the old cars like they used to. 

Now they are treated like farm tractors.  It's sad. 


 Very true.



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Unfortunately, it sounds like it did catch fire after being T-boned by a motor coach. They are saying the cause was a blown tire on the '48 Chevy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/highway-407-crash-1.3693198

My thoughts are with the victims' families. cry


 My first thought is with the victims and their families. My next thought is the spate of regulations / legislation that's bound to come from this terrible tragedy. cry



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JetFan wrote:
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Unfortunately, it sounds like it did catch fire after being T-boned by a motor coach. They are saying the cause was a blown tire on the '48 Chevy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/highway-407-crash-1.3693198

My thoughts are with the victims' families. cry


My first thought is with the victims and their families. My next thought is the spate of regulations / legislation that's bound to come from this terrible tragedy.cry


 ....agree JetFan.......more ammo for the MOT... to legislate us off the road....

    too bad no advocates in Canada to help us fight the bureaucracy like SEMA nd SAN in the US



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Unfortunately, it sounds like it did catch fire after being T-boned by a motor coach. They are saying the cause was a blown tire on the '48 Chevy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/highway-407-crash-1.3693198

My thoughts are with the victims' families. cry


My first thought is with the victims and their families. My next thought is the spate of regulations / legislation that's bound to come from this terrible tragedy.cry


 ....agree JetFan.......more ammo for the MOT... to legislate us off the road....

    too bad no advocates in Canada to help us fight the bureaucracy like SEMA nd SAN in the US


 The desire to safeguard us from ourselves is very strong right now. A friend pointed out recently that we used to wear 'tanning lotion' back in the day. Today, we wear 'sun screen'. Futurists salivate over the advent of the self-driving car. Seems there's more at stake than our rides. WE are becoming obsolete. confuse



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JetFan wrote:
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Unfortunately, it sounds like it did catch fire after being T-boned by a motor coach. They are saying the cause was a blown tire on the '48 Chevy.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/highway-407-crash-1.3693198

My thoughts are with the victims' families. cry


 My first thought is with the victims and their families. My next thought is the spate of regulations / legislation that's bound to come from this terrible tragedy. cry


 Hopefully that legislation will incorporated those damn coach busses into the speed governing laws that school buses or rigs must comply to.  Anyone who knows 400 series highways and coach buses know there is no way that a bus like that in the left lane on the 407 was adhering to the posted limit.  Would this save lives in the case.  Nobody can say.  New cars break.  They break more often then old cars.  Sure population comes to be a factor but in most cases vintage cars are maintained well past most vehicles on the road.  Its what we do.... i always have to play and poke and listen to my cars.  Was under the Impala last night adjusting and checking.  They all get a trip up the lift in the spring.  Wheels off and inspected. I doubt any of my neighbours do thisMm to their cars.  Ok ramble done. 



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seems that the "blow out" on rear tire is the "fault" BUT whose to say they didn't hit a piece of metal or debris on the road???? Slice a tire & your on a 'wild" ride at Hwy. speed??? Just a thought as you do see all sorts of $hit that drops off other vehicles, but that said what a shame for 3 young people to be gone so soon!!!!!!!!

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