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1964 Wire Wheel Cover Centers


My 1964 Beaumont SD came with a nice set of what appear to be just like 1964 Pontiac GTO/Tempest wire wheel covers:

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The centers are all pretty nice, say "Pontiac" but are very faded - they look almost like silver on tan.

1. Are these wheel covers correct as options for 1964 Beaumont, or did some prior owner find a set of these and liked them and put them on? (My car, according to VVS data, did not have any optional wheel covers from the factory.)

2. Are these correct for those wire wheel centers?

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3. Do you think I should replace my centers with new decals, or leave the old ones? New would "pop" more and help draw attention to the fact that this fine automobile was built for Pontiac (not a Chevelle! evileye), but old would be more, I dunno, authentic? A dilemma ...

Thanks,

Dave



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  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering



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Those look an awful lot like my 68 spoke hubcaps that are original on my 68 2+2. I've seen them on 68 Beaumonts as well.
Different center though, not a spinner.

 

Regards, Scott (LandShark ...)



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LandShark68_2+2 wrote:

Those look an awful lot like my 68 spoke hubcaps that are original on my 68 2+2. I've seen them on 68 Beaumonts as well.
Different center though, not a spinner.

 

Regards, Scott (LandShark ...)


I know the ones you are talking about Scott.

Round center caps with a plain black, ribbed center (no Pontiac symbol). I had a set on my '68 442 (the first owner asked for a switch-a-roo at the dealership).



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The spinner was part of the Pontiac A-body wire wheel cover - they replaced it in later years with plain center cap (excerpt from GTO book):

Wire Wheel Hubcaps.JPG

Dave



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  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering



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Dave,

Don't think these centers are correct....remember in those years Beaumont and Acadian

was NOT a Pontiac, and never had any I.D. anywhere on the car saying it was a Pontiac.

I'm no expert so don't take my word as gospel.but....

from the brochures of the 64 Beaumont on line, I don't see any with wire wheel covers......

-G

and this from another site about 64 Beaumonts:

Unique to the Acadian Beaumont;

  • hub caps - all  models
  • V8 emblems
  • side trim
  • grilles
  • headlight buckets
  • hood spear
  • front marker light lenses
  • radio (acadian script)
  • horn button
  • tail lights
  • rear bumper (with back up light cut outs)
  • horn button
  • seat fabric (similar to but not the same as Tempest)
  • fender and hood trim
  • sport deluxe emblems

 



-- Edited by Greaser on Tuesday 9th of August 2016 12:54:14 PM

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In the 1964 Acadian Beaumont broucher that I have they list "Optional Equipment" (pg 11) with "Simulated Wire Wheel Covers" but show  no picture of them.



-- Edited by Brian on Tuesday 9th of August 2016 10:07:35 PM

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Thanks for the info guys.

George, I had forgotten about Acadian being a separate make, not a Pontiac, back then - with no "Pontiac" branding anywhere. Brian, I didn't think to look at my brochure like yours until you mentioned it, and of course it does show wire wheel covers as an option - one place on the internet implies that they were dealer-installed, not a factory-installed option. Given that there is no photo, maybe the correct centers would be similar to the centers of the other 1964 Beaumont wheel covers (instead of the Pontiac name)? Since nobody else has chimed in, and since there is no other place in the universe with more knowledgeable people than here ... I guess we will never know.

So, since Acadians were sold by Canadian Pontiac dealers in 1964, I am going to assume that either (1) these were put on by the Canadian Pontiac dealer, hence the Pontiac centers, or (2) somebody in the past put them on for whatever reason - in either case (3) I am going to leave them on, since I like them, but will not put on new bright red center decals, and if some car-show lawyer in Florida notices, I will stand firm in my statement "yes they were factory options in 1964, installed at Pontiac dealership because that is where Acadians were sold" biggrin

Dave



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56Pontiac  1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod

  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering



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I have a set of those wheel covers.. 64 GTO

 



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rabbit64cs wrote:

I have a set of those wheel covers.. 64 GTO

 


 A good set isn't cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-65-66-Pontiac-GTO-factory-wire-spinner-wheel-covers-Nice-Original-set-of-5-/302037574879?hash=item4652d7a4df

 

Just curious...what diameter size is the cap insert for those wire wheel covers?



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It's the same size as the Beaumont bullet flat caps .. Or ralley disc brake centers ..

ask me how I know evileye



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Greaser wrote:
rabbit64cs wrote:

I have a set of those wheel covers.. 64 GTO


 A good set isn't cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-65-66-Pontiac-GTO-factory-wire-spinner-wheel-covers-Nice-Original-set-of-5-/302037574879?hash=item4652d7a4df

Just curious...what diameter size is the cap insert for those wire wheel covers?


SHUSH! I might need to buy one or two from Rog if I ever lose one! wink

There are other sets out there on evilbay, much less $$$ but not as nice, actually I think my set is about as nice as the ones on your link (except for the replacement center decals).

Center cap decal insert is almost exactly 2.0" diameter (maybe a wee bit more, but less than 1/16" more) ... why? Can you make some Acadian inserts like these

1964 Acadian wheel.jpg

for the spinners?

Dave



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56Pontiac  1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod

  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering



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Just curious Dave if GM made all their inserts the same size for their fleet of cars.

I have a set of 64 Impala SS wheel covers on the shelf and will check tomorrow if they are also 2" in diameter.

Also have a set of 1968 Buick Wildcat hubcaps

3268_Chevy_Chevelle_Impala_Malibu_SS_Supbuick-wildcat-hubcaps-1015b.jpg



-- Edited by Greaser on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 09:42:17 PM

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Greaser wrote:
... another site about 64 Beaumonts

Ummm, what site would that be? I thought I have searched everywhere, but if I have missed one ...

Thanks,

Dave



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56Pontiac  1956 Pontiac Pathfinder 2dr sedan, 496 - dyno'd 545 hp, stick shift, 4.11 posi - Hot Rod

  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering



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davelacourse wrote:
Greaser wrote:
... another site about 64 Beaumonts

Ummm, what site would that be? I thought I have searched everywhere, but if I have missed one ...

Thanks,

Dave


 http://roadtests.tripod.com/canadianacadians/id18.html



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