Hi my name is John Hall and I just joined so I thought I'd introduce myself;
I live in Montreal Canada and I've been in the Pontiac hobby since I was a teenager in the late 70's. I was always a GTO guy but in the last ten years I decided to build a collection the reflects the spectrum of the 69 Pontiacs. All my cars have always been American cars until now.
I currently have 11 69's, two GTO's, two GP's, a LeMans, a Firebird, two Bonnevilles, an Executive, a Ventura and a Catalina. Last weekend I bought that burgundy 2+2 that was on eBay from Calgary. I never had any intention of having a Canadian car but I felt this car was in exceptionally original condition and it would be fun to see how it compared to its south of the border cousins.
Funny thing is that this is sort of full circle for me since the first car ride of my life was in a 63 Parisienne ragtop coming home from the hospital as a new born. He had bought it new the year before. I still have all the original paperwork for it.
11 1969 American Pontiacs
and a 1969 Canadian 2+2
Welcome! glad to see you have a few cars Most of us here have twice as many, but I'm sure you will "catch up" Good score on the Canadian car
Well since you've already seen the 2+2 on this forum here is a bit on my American Ponchos;
I picked up this Firebird in San Diego about 6 years ago from the second owner. It's a Sprint 6 with a 4 speed and no power accessories expect ironically a power antenna.
Here is my LeMans convertible, I bought it about 12 years ago from the original owner in Alabama. It's heavily optioned and has a 350HO, M40 and AC.
My kids grew up riding in this car so it has a special place in the family.
Here is one of my GP's, an SJ with typical southern options like auto, AC, PW etc. Got this one owner car in Los Angeles in 2007. exceptionally original condition including paint (which looks nicer in the picture than in person).
I picked up this Ventura wagon from the original owners son 2 years ago in central Oregon. The car is a time warp, garage kept since new and only 29,000 miles its original down to sparkplugs, paint and everything in between. He won the car in 68 on a national TV show.
Last year I bought this Catalina from a dealer in Missouri. It has an old repaint from the 70's but otherwise unrestored. it has the 428-360 horse engine, automatic and AC. Nice cruiser.
This car is a Bonneville Brougham convertible. On convertibles the brougham package included genuine leather seats. I bought this car from the son of the owner who bought it is a demo from a Pontiac dealer in Los Angeles. The car was being used by the owner of the dealership which explains why it has every option (36 if I recall correctly).
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1969 Pontiac Laurentian 2 door hardtop **SOLD**1975 Firebird Esprit 350/4speed **SOLD**Canadian Poncho World Headquarters - Prince Edward Island
Welcome from Canada's east coast.
Prince Edward Island'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
The one I posted is a 370, the other is a 390. My convertible Bonneville is a 390 horse, the 4 door Bonneville and my Catalina convertible have the 428-360 and my Executive and the Catalina wagon are 400-290.btw I just realized there is a specific place to introduce myself, didn't see it earlier, sorry for the mixup.
Here is my Bonneville 4door hardtop, original paint, will need paint one day as the hood and trunklid are faded beyond saving I believe. This car is also a Brougham but on the closed car you got a fancy cloth material instead of the leather. One owner car out of Colorado, the car has an odd color combo with brown outside and green inside. The reason this happened is that the car was ordered with a gold interior (I have the paperwork from the purchase in 68) but the dealer screwed up since there was no gold interior available on a 4 door Brougham, factory changed it to green with advising the dealer or owner.
Last of the big cars is this Executive 4 door sedan, one owner car out of South Dakota, mostly original paint but it does have some minor rust on the heel of the front fenders and one corner of the rear wheel wells. Well optioned for an Executive with Automatic, ps, pb, pw, p seat and AC.
For those of you who don't know an Executive was a car built on the longer Bonneville body but with Catalina trim level outside and Ventura trim (Ventura was just a fancier interior on the Cat) inside.
Welcome to Canadianponcho, John! With an impressive fleet like that and being in Montreal I would think your name should be John Scotti. You have a simply amazing cache of GM cars from the days when the "GM Mark of Excellence" was reality. Very impressive. The Canadian cars would appear to be lesser than the U.S. versions (wow, genuine leather on the Bonnie convertible!) but the reality is that most of us enthusiasts of my generation in this still great country of ours grew up with the unique hybrids. The narrow trackers looked perfectly normal to us; big engines were the exception; the wide trackers seemed wide. There were 3 Canadian 69 Pontiacs within a block of my house in '69; 2 Laurentians and a Parisienne, plus 3 Beaumonts within 3 blocks. I am not even touching on the other year models which were also prevalent. Canadian produced vehicles were simply a given back then.
67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built stocker 250 Powerglide 40,000 mile
Also in garage waiting: stroker 296 cid inline six & built TH350
Cameron Milne, Toronto.
I am a walking encyclopedia with numerous pages missing.
here is the car safe and sound in my shop.
btw, I was a bit incorrect about the difference between the cat and the 2+2, the rear quarter is identical as I said but they just move the rear axle 2" forward in the rear wheelwell giving it an odd look. And while the outer dimension of the front fender is identical the Canadian front wheel opening is 1" closer to the door than the US version (and the rear wheel itself is an inch closer too). The shape of the wheel opening is also different with the Canadian version having a more rounded shape and a point at the rear. This adds up to the 3" difference in wheelbase and the overall length being the same.