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I just received a pocket price guide for 1969 Canadian Pontiacs! Lists all options and their restrictions along with retail and wholesale price of each. Really neat, it answers lots of questions. It also has Beaumont and Acadian but those cars are missing pricing info.

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Here is the cover.  

Canadian price list 1969 cover.jpg



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Some interesting tidbits off the bat...

Base 350-250 V8 was about $115 over the 6 (depends on model).
300 horse 350 was $60 over base V8
396(265) was $78 over base V8
427(335) was $186.60 over base V8
427(390) was $270.60 over base V8 (included dual exhaust)

Dual exhaust was optional on the other V8's for $36.00 but not available on the base 350(250)

Power bucket seat was not available, only bench had power option and wasn't offered with 4 speed

Any car with buckets (standard on 2+2, optional on GP) came with a console. If 4 speed or automatic was ordered the console had shifter, if standard 3 on the tree console was non operating but still there.

fender skirts were only offered on GP (standard) or Parisienne (optional) not offered on other cars

Buckets were standard in 2+2 but only optional on the GP for a hefty $192.05 (included console)

Rear Air shocks or auto level control was not available with F41

F41 was only offered with the 427(390) and included front and rear sway bars

F40 was heavy duty springs and shocks for load carrying. It was included in the Taxi option

Disc brakes were only offered with power assist. Disc brakes required 15" wheels and 15" wheels required power disc brakes

No fender skirts with rally wheels, Rally wheels were 15" only

Base hubcap is same as American dogdish except it says "Pontiac Pontiac" instead of "Pontiac Motor Division". All models except 2+2 and GP came standard with this cap

2+2 came standard with specific wheelcover, basically the US Tempest deluxe with different center emblem, this cover was also used on the Beaumont SD but wasn't offered on any other car

GP used a deluxe wheelcover similar to US big car deluxe but 14". There was also a 15" version. These were optional on lesser models and a 2+2 with 15" wheels (but not ordered with Rallys) would get this cover

Chevy Impala style wire wheel cover was also optional on all models but only with 14" wheels

14" tire options were all one size (8.25), only option was white wall or nylon black or white

15" tire options included 8.25 white or black but also G70 and G78's. only the G70x15 was available with redline

all whitewalls on the GP were the dual stripe variety, not offered on other models



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Few other bits:


as we figured no gauge package or tach was offered

2 tone moldings were offered without actual two tone paint but were required with two tone paint.

even the Stratocheif came with carpet but a rubber floor (instead of carpet) was offered as a low priced option

rear antenna was optional but no power option

power seat and power windows were not offered on strato cheif



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interesting is also the price spread as you go up the food chain (2 door hardtop and with base V8 in all cases):

Strato-Chief: $3,453

Laurentian: $3,586 ($133 extra)

Parisienne: $3,769 ($183 extra)

2+2: $3,971 ($202 extra) Which is basically the cost of buckets and console which is all a 2+2 really is anyway, no mechanical differences

GP: $4,106 ($337 over the Parisienne and $135 over the 2+2)



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Cool find John. Keep this stuff coming, what a great resource!

I find the lack of power antenna strange, but that explains my 69 Grande Parisienne with pretty much every option available but no power antenna.

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When I get a chance Iāll post pics of every page. Iāll put it on a new thread, maybe it is sticky-worthy?

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Yes, if you post those pages in a thread, let's do a couple of things. We'll request no comments be made in that thread with the pictures and then once you have it filled, I'll sticky it and close it to avoid cluttering the thread. How does that sound?

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Oh, and of course the logical spot for it would be Hillar's General 65-70 Full Size Forum.

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Another option not offered on Canadian Pontiacs is cornering lights Inversely things like light monitors, rear defog for wagons and convertibles, inside mirror light, redlines, block heater are Canada only. I canāt figure where the wagon rear defogger would mount?

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Wasn't it on the side panel about 1-2 feet forward of the gate?

US models didn't have fibre optic or map light mirrors? Those poor deprived people, those are cool toys.

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Iāll try to do it this week. Iāll post pics of the Acadian and Beaumont in their respective sections too. But those ones donāt have most of the prices filled in. (All the prices are hand written by the salesman at that time).

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And of course US models donāt have a console or floor shift options in 69. Iāve never seen a wagon defogger or a ragtop for that matter.

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Wasn't the 300hp 350 standard on 2+2 as well as dual exhaust and the side stripes?


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Not sure about 69 but 70 had a 350 2 bbl in a 2+2. I parted one out in 1979 like that. Buckets, console, 12 bolt posi, power trunk, rally wheels, disc brakes but a 2 barrel!

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69 2+2 was a trim only package, same standard 350 2bbl engine, single exhaust, base suspension etc as the Parisienne. A 2+2 is just bucket seats, console, side molding delete (like a Strato) with stripes, specific emblems and different hub caps. In 70 they upgraded it with Rally wheels and power disc brakes.

Mine was ordered with the 350-300 4 bbl but not dual exhaust, go figure.

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North wrote:



Mine was ordered with the 350-300 4 bbl but not dual exhaust, go figure.


 SAME AS MINE, ALTHOUGH DUALS WERE ADDED AT SOME POINT.

THAT BOOKLET WAS A COOL FIND!

 



-- Edited by 68 427 on Wednesday 18th of October 2017 01:51:20 PM

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I'm as weird as the guy who ordered it, I installed a Waldrons exhaust on it this year and I kept it single. i want to keep the car exactly as built. I'm not hard ass on that, I have other cars that I have added options to but on this car I decided to change nothing.

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Back in the day a lot of people avoided duals when buying a new car (especially in the salt belt) because within two years you'd rusted out components and a dual system was much more expensive to replace.

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I've always been told (and it seems to hold true) that single exhaust runs much hotter, thus lasts longer because it stays drier inside. It makes sense. You change a lot more mufflers on duals than single on a daily driver.

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With a single exhaust you will tend to keep your foot out of the secondaries, thus the fuel economy secret of the Quadrajet has been realized once again.

Carl, that is an interesting point that you posted about running hotter and thus dries out better. If it were me in '69 I would have ordered duals. They were standard only on the L36 427, optional all the way down to the 350 4-barrel (I think).

 

Hey North, kudos to you for keeping it as spec'd and by not adding anything. It is hard to resist though.

And Thank You for posting smile



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