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Did Small blocks come from the factory with exhaust manifold gaskets? [16 vote(s)]

Never seen them on any engine I've torn down.
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Always there, have to scrap 'em off on a rebuild.
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Exhaust manifold gaskets, yes or no ?


Big argument in the garage tonight, Diamond Dave the New Brunswick Nuisance insists that all stock GM engines came with exhaust manifold gaskets and that they should be used every time that the manifolds come off or on a rebuild. WE were focusing on my L48 in the corner of the garage, a small block 350.

Big Ray says he's never seen them on any original small block he tore down and he has never used them when replacing a stock manifold with stock. Headers is a completely different animal but we are talking about stock manifolds here. 

Let's hear from you boys and girls.



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73SC wrote:

Big argument in the garage tonight, Diamond Dave the New Brunswick Nuisance insists that all stock GM engines came with exhaust manifold gaskets and that they should be used every time that the manifolds come off or on a rebuild. WE were focusing on my L48 in the corner of the garage, a small block 350.

Big Ray says he's never seen them on any original small block he tore down and he has never used them when replacing a stock manifold with stock. Headers is a completely different animal but we are talking about stock manifolds here. 

Let's hear from you boys and girls.


 ......never seen them on a factory stock small block. Toured Flint engine assembly plant and no gaskets between exhaust manifolds

and the head. Most rebuild kits include gaskets for the purpose of sealing up warped surfaces from high mileage cars



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That settles it right there BJ, Thanks for your expert and first hand knowledge.



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For sure absolutely positively NO!

never had them from the factory,  and should never be used.  they will blow out sooner rather than later.  probably sooner tho. 

Just blocksand both surfaces and use a very light extreeme temp silicone,  you will never have an exhaust leak ever again!



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Chevy never installed them on a carbureted small block, same goes for big block. Bjburnout and Beaumontguru have summed it up perfectly, although I never even use a high temp silicone when I have a manifold off, just metal on metal. Never ever had an issue with one yet. We started seeing them on the 366 and 427 trucks when they went to fuel injection though.

Best way to make a Chevy manifold leak is to install a gasket in it, just like Dave says!

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And i have seen them on all the marine engines too.  its a really thick material, hard as a rock and near impossible to remove with a scraper.



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I think the perception that exhaust manifold gaskets are necessary comes from all the people who run headers (and chase down exhaust leaks until they have been retorqued numerous times). Stock manifolds, no gaskets.



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I had the broken exhaust bolts changed on my 5.3 and cant stop the leaks. I have been told to double the gaskets or remove manifold and grind flat.



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Yes, the 4.8 and 5.3 have an issue with that. We usually replace the manifolds. We use jobber manifolds and they have been fine. However, we only use GM manifold gaskets because we've had issues with the aftermarket gaskets. What gasket are you using Kevin?

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Yes, the 4.8 and 5.3 have an issue with that. We usually replace the manifolds. We use jobber manifolds and they have been fine. However, we only use GM manifold gaskets because we've had issues with the aftermarket gaskets. What gasket are you using Kevin?


 I just asked for their best at A&A auto parts. I did not replace manifolds.They do seal up soon as they get hot



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