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List of Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada


"We currently have 12845 stations entered for the following provinces and states.

Click on a province or state to see them!"

Located at the bottom of the pure-gas org site page.

 

https://www.pure-gas.org/

 

All Canada: Shell V-Power, MacEwen premium
Toronto: Esso premium 93
Western Canada: CO-OP premium
New Brunswick, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, PEI: all premium? Please confirm with evidence!
British Columbia: Chevron 94
Ontario: Costco 91; Canadian Tire 91; Ultramar 91

 



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I drive right by one every time I go to Winnipeg, Red River Co-op and never knew it. I sometimes even fuel up there. Both our kids have memberships there.

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just joined Costco so that's good and I did not know Esso is 93. I have been going to the Petro Canada for 94 but it does have ehonal



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Thanks for the information. I am somewhat confused about the validity of the data after reading the details in the web page provided, It states In New Brunswick, Moncton "ALL Ultramar's". Well I don't know about this. Recently I did purchase fuel ( ethanol free ) for the 67 Beaumont, at the Ultramar located at 884 Mountain Road in Moncton NB. I actually spoke to two sales people there and the gentlemen was very assertive in his response, saying they receive their fuel from Dartmouth NS ? ture or false, and that most indeed it was Ethanol Free . I was happy with his comments and made my purchase. This is where I get confused. In Bathurst NB, I tried to buy Ethanol Free fuel at two different Ultramar Stations and both have clearly posted signage stating the fuel May contain up to 10 % ethanol ? I asked at both stations why they can't sell Ethanol free fuel, and they were surprised when I told them about the Station in Moncton. But no comments.
For what it's worth , I don't think we will ever know what actually comes out of the pumps.
Thanks for sharing the data link thought.

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I only use Shell Vpower in everything I own. All lawn equiptment, 4 wheeler, daily driver 2000 silverado and my trusty old reliable 55 Pontiac 261 six. A very good friend owns a small engine shop and has poster on a bulletin board when you first enter his shop. The poster shows the damages ethanol gas creates in carburated engines. A good portion of his business has been created by customers not knowing the damage ethanol causes.

Thanks for posting this info on where the good gas is available.

Al

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silver steak wrote:

This is where I get confused. In Bathurst NB, I tried to buy Ethanol Free fuel at two different Ultramar Stations and both have clearly posted signage stating the fuel May contain up to 10 % ethanol ? I asked at both stations why they can't sell Ethanol free fuel, and they were surprised when I told them about the Station in Moncton. But no comments.
For what it's worth , I don't think we will ever know what actually comes out of the pumps.
Thanks for sharing the data link thought.


More information and some of your questions may be answered: 

https://www.pure-gas.org/about

Aren't certain brands ethanol-free?
No. All gasoline brands have both pure and ethanol-containing gasoline under the same brand names. For example, Shell V-Power ranges from 91 to 93 octane both with and without added ethanol. It just varies from station to station, and it's up to the station owner whether or not to sell pure gas. In fact, in Madison, Wisconsin there is a Shell station that sells 93-octane V-Power with ethanol at most pumps, but which has a single pump, at a higher price, dispensing pure 91-octane gas.

How do I know if a particular gas and grade is ethanol-free?
In most states, stations are required to label the pumps if they contain ethanol over a certain percentage, which varies by state but is usually 1 percent. A few states have no labeling requirement, and you just have to ask someone at the station that knows what goes in the tanks. State-by-state labeling requirements are listed at fuel-testers.com.

Yellow Label

To find out if ethanol-blended gasoline is sold at a station look for the Yellow label in the pump area indicating that the fuel may contain a maximum of 10% ethanol.

From a forum comment in January 2015

 

Here is how you check. First you can ask the attendant how often they check their gas for water. If they tell you twice a day then that gas station has not converted to ethanol free gas. If they check the tanks once a week or once every two

weeks then that gas station has changed over to ethanol free gas at all blends. The other way to check for your own personal satisfaction is as follows. Take a 500ml water bottle and leave 1.5 inches of water in the bottle and mark that water line

with a magic marker. Then fill the water bottle with gas to  3/4's full. Then shake the water bottle. Let the fluid settle and if the water level has risen then there is ethanol. If the water level stays the same then you have ethanol free gas. 

From Shell Canada site

  • Shell V-Power NiTRO+ premium gasoline in Canada does not contain ethanol.


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A thing to remember is that while they generally stick to the same blend for a given fuel, refiners have some variables to achieve the desired octane and they reserve the right to vary them as required. Meaning it is not entirely impossible that a fuel listed as 0% ethanol might at some time past, present or future where there might be some ethanol in the mix as required to produce the fuel with the ingredients in stock. Depressing yes, but generally they stick to the ethanol content as list on the pump. Most certainly the blends change seasonally (it isn't just Petro Canada that does it).



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You are saying fuel may have ethanol in it even though there is no mention of it? I thought they were required to mention if it's in there?

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I don't think they would put ethanol in Shell V-Power 91  if they actually say there is none, but on Shell's pumps for 87 octane they say it may contain up to 10%, meaning the ethanol levels do fluctuate.

Rather than rely on a blowhard like me wink , it might be the most accurate thing to actually contact the various fuel companies to hear it straight from their reps. They have the latest info.

 

I hope that I am not perceived as a blowhard...



-- Edited by CdnGMfan on Monday 11th of December 2017 12:49:40 AM

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CdnGMfan wrote:

I don't think they would put ethanol in Shell V-Power 91  if they actually say there is none, but on Shell's pumps for 87 octane they say it may contain up to 10%, meaning the ethanol levels do fluctuate.

Rather than rely on a blowhard like me wink , it might be the most accurate thing to actually contact the various fuel companies to hear it straight from their reps. They have the latest info.

 

I hope that I am not perceived as a blowhard...



-- Edited by CdnGMfan on Monday 11th of December 2017 12:49:40 AM



I would hope you aren't either.

I don't know what we'd do here if that hard drive in your head ever crashes!

I sure don't want to be buying "no ethanol" fuel that has some in it. I make a point in all my small engine stuff to not use it. It's too much of a pain cleaning carbs just to get them running properly.

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Yup, ethanol-free only for my little motors, in fact all of my motors.

With the pushing of higher ethanol content on the hapless citizens, I would at least hope that we still have ethanol-free options well into the future. I mean c'mon! It causes so many problems for so many.  That is all I'm going to say... peace.gif



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I just fuelled up at Shell & noticed contact info on the pump. It said, "Questions? Call 1-800-661-1600".



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Superstore Premium is ethanol free, says so right on the pumps. I don't know where they get their gas from, not Suncor (Petro Can) since all their gas contains ethanol.



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None of the four Atlantic provinces have regulations in place requiring ethanol, so many of their storage facilities have not been set up to handle fuel containing ethanol.

Here is where it gets tricky. Generally speaking, refineries will add ethanol to regular and a lesser amount to mid-grade gasoline to meet federal and provincial regulations. Because these grades make up the bulk of sales, it is not necessary to add ethanol to premium grades to achieve the required average.

In most areas of the country, it is thus possible to buy gasoline that does not contain ethanol. Buy premium if in doubt, regular in Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. There may be ethanol in regular grade in southern Quebec, New Brunswick and P.E.I. as the giant Irving refinery in New Brunswick does add ethanol to regular. Its largest customers are south of the border, but some may be delivered to Quebec and local stations.

 

 

There is little to no ethanol gas on PEI.



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I used to have a heck of a time with the smaller weed whacker and blower motors... Until I started keeping V Power in them. Never used to be fussy with what I used. My Troy Built 4 stroke leaf blower started first pull this fall, after having been last run last fall. This start was done with the little tank only about 1/4 full with year old gas, so I'm seeming to have better luck on the non E fuel in the small stuff.

Another thing I always do for the small engine 5 gallon fill can, is to always add stabilizer into this tank at the time I fill it up. That way I'm always adding stabilized fuel into the small equipment, and the fil tank stays fresh longer.

As far as E gas into our newer daily drivers, I don't think it makes much if any difference. However once raised above 10-15%, that might change. If so, it's onto the V power in everything regardless of cost.



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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Well, I'll be....

I drive right by one every time I go to Winnipeg, Red River Co-op and never knew it. I sometimes even fuel up there. Both our kids have memberships there.


 Co-op only just became certified about 1 year ago, before that it was the worst gas you could buy, i am speaking winnipeg only, can t vouch for anywhere else

They are now "top Tier certified"  

anywhere you go,  look for the "top tier" signs at the pumps.  Shell is another good one for sure.



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I used to have a heck of a time with the smaller weed whacker and blower motors... Until I started keeping V Power in them. Never used to be fussy with what I used. My Troy Built 4 stroke leaf blower started first pull this fall, after having been last run last fall. This start was done with the little tank only about 1/4 full with year old gas, so I'm seeming to have better luck on the non E fuel in the small stuff.

Another thing I always do for the small engine 5 gallon fill can, is to always add stabilizer into this tank at the time I fill it up. That way I'm always adding stabilized fuel into the small equipment, and the fill tank stays fresh longer.

As far as E gas into our newer daily drivers, I don't think it makes much if any difference. However once raised above 10-15%, that might change. If so, it's onto the V power in everything regardless of cost.


I run regular gas in all my small engines (the same machines for 11 years on PEI) with no problems. I guess that is proof I don't buy Ethanol gas.

I do add Stabil in my cans of "generator gas". I also wait to fill them up later in the season with "winter gas". They tend to stay idle for months until I need them.



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Carl Stevenson wrote:

Well, I'll be....

I drive right by one every time I go to Winnipeg, Red River Co-op and never knew it. I sometimes even fuel up there. Both our kids have memberships there.


 Co-op only just became certified about 1 year ago, before that it was the worst gas you could buy, i am speaking winnipeg only, can t vouch for anywhere else

They are now "top Tier certified"  

anywhere you go,  look for the "top tier" signs at the pumps.  Shell is another good one for sure.





Parker ran Co-op gas driving to U of M for 3 years in that LT1 Roadmaster with no issues but those LT1's, even though they are about 10:0-1 compression seem to run on anything.

What's the issue with Co-op gas usually Dave? Detonation?

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Carl Stevenson wrote:
beaumontguru wrote:

 

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Well, I'll be....

I drive right by one every time I go to Winnipeg, Red River Co-op and never knew it. I sometimes even fuel up there. Both our kids have memberships there.


 Co-op only just became certified about 1 year ago, before that it was the worst gas you could buy, i am speaking winnipeg only, can t vouch for anywhere else

They are now "top Tier certified"  

anywhere you go,  look for the "top tier" signs at the pumps.  Shell is another good one for sure.



 



Parker ran Co-op gas driving to U of M for 3 years in that LT1 Roadmaster with no issues but those LT1's, even though they are about 10:0-1 compression seem to run on anything.

What's the issue with Co-op gas usually Dave? Detonation?


 Nothing wrong with Co-op fuel, never has been. Sold it for the 10 years we had the shop. Been burning it in everything since, no issues. It is Shell fuel after all.

In Manitoba, there are only 2 types of gas, Imperial and Shell. That's the only terminals in town. And all the fuel comes down Enbridge's  #1 pipe from Edmonton with no Ethanol. Ethanol if added is added at the terminal, hauled in by rail car from Minnedosa.

Now each brand has additives that are added in when filling the truck before delivery usually just different levels of detergent. More marketing than anything. 

"Top Tier" is just marketing, you have to pay to have it on your pump nothing more.

The whole gasoline game is a racket few people truly understand, even most that are in it. 

Don't get me started on pricing, that's a whole other rant that just gets my blood pressure up...........



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DANO65 wrote:
Carl Stevenson wrote:
beaumontguru wrote:

 

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Well, I'll be....

I drive right by one every time I go to Winnipeg, Red River Co-op and never knew it. I sometimes even fuel up there. Both our kids have memberships there.


 Co-op only just became certified about 1 year ago, before that it was the worst gas you could buy, i am speaking winnipeg only, can t vouch for anywhere else

They are now "top Tier certified"  

anywhere you go,  look for the "top tier" signs at the pumps.  Shell is another good one for sure.



 



Parker ran Co-op gas driving to U of M for 3 years in that LT1 Roadmaster with no issues but those LT1's, even though they are about 10:0-1 compression seem to run on anything.

What's the issue with Co-op gas usually Dave? Detonation?


 Nothing wrong with Co-op fuel, never has been. Sold it for the 10 years we had the shop. Been burning it in everything since, no issues. It is Shell fuel after all.

In Manitoba, there are only 2 types of gas, Imperial and Shell. That's the only terminals in town. And all the fuel comes down Enbridge's  #1 pipe from Edmonton with no Ethanol. Ethanol if added is added at the terminal, hauled in by rail car from Minnedosa.

Now each brand has additives that are added in when filling the truck before delivery usually just different levels of detergent. More marketing than anything. 

"Top Tier" is just marketing, you have to pay to have it on your pump nothing more.

The whole gasoline game is a racket few people truly understand, even most that are in it. 

Don't get me started on pricing, that's a whole other rant that just gets my blood pressure up...........


 Thought co-op had their own refinery in the west? Guess your Eastern Canada this time? Have always run Co-op premium 0% ethanol. The premium may cost you less in the end...had a bud that tracked both mid grade(ethanol) and premium(no ethanol) and think he got 3 mpg more on average...so per ltr he save $$ on millage per ltr cost.

 

http://www.co-oprefinery.ca/wps/portal/

 



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 Thought co-op had their own refinery in the west? Guess your Eastern Canada this time? Have always run Co-op premium 0% ethanol. The premium may cost you less in the end...had a bud that tracked both mid grade(ethanol) and premium(no ethanol) and think he got 3 mpg more on average...so per ltr he save $$ on millage per ltr cost.

http://www.co-oprefinery.ca/wps/portal/


 They do but it supplies the local area for them and Shell and whoever else they have an agreement with. They all have deals to use each others terminals and refineries as needed to service an area without everybody having to have their own refinery and terminal in each area. Manitoba only has the 2 terminals and no refineries which service everyone in the area. Like I said it's a racket, what you get in one area is not necessarily what you get in another. The fuel itself is all refined to a certain standard, the difference if any, will be in the additives.



-- Edited by DANO65 on Wednesday 13th of December 2017 10:00:24 AM

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ive basically given up , im running the 87 octane fuel in everything , im cheap , all the vehicles require high octane but it dosent seem to hurt anything as long as I drive them,i don't ever let anything sit for very long just my two cents.



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