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1969 Factory Photo


My ride-height in my coupe is way off and I keep trying new springs... soon I'll be cutting Nova springs if I can't get the back end to settle down!  But while I was looking around for references, I found this factory photo that I thought shows what ride height was expected to be in the day, so I thought I'd post it. 

Sadly I'm on my Mac and can't figure out how to post a pic, so here's the link:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yhcAAOSwAydZ1OqE/s-l1600.jpg

 



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Not sure I personally like that stance on the factory photo, Car looks lower in back and the white wall is close to getting obscured by the top of the wheel opening.  That's the way I recall a lot on GM cars leaving the factory though.



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Here ya go!

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Standard suspension always seems quick to sag or sit low, but that is the effect of a spring rate for a soft ride that the typical car buyer wanted. It also helps give the low appearance that the designers wanted.

Neat picture BTW.



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Assembly manuals are a good reference for ride heights, they have charts for ride heights with all the different combinations of power trains and options. You could possibly use the 69 Chev charts I guess?

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I think Dave has the 69 Canadian Pontiac assembly manual he got from me. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure they have the ride heights in them just like the Chevy manuals do, as you mentioned.

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its sitting a inch or 2 low in rear .    probably test dummies in trunk . 

 

why not set it like your other 69 



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Carl Stevenson wrote:

I think Dave has the 69 Canadian Pontiac assembly manual he got from me. I haven't checked but I'm pretty sure they have the ride heights in them just like the Chevy manuals do, as you mentioned.


 That's good, wasn't sure if the CDN version had them. 



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I will check in a little bit but I think that info is in there. It certainly will be in the Chevy assembly manuals. Simple for them just to copy from the US manual.

I think the Canadian Pontiac shop manual has it too, so they could just transfer it to the assembly manual.

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73SC wrote:

Not sure I personally like that stance on the factory photo, Car looks lower in back and the white wall is close to getting obscured by the top of the wheel opening.  That's the way I recall a lot on GM cars leaving the factory though.


It's funny that the rear wheel opening is lower from the body line/side molding than the front.confuse Almost begs for the opening to be modified or the body's rear end to be jacked-up.

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Personally, I always try to set my cars to visually have the same space (front and rear) between the top of the fender and the top of the white wall.

The rear of the car in the photo is OK to me, just lower the front a little and it will have a forward stance even when parked.

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Personally, I always try to set my cars to visually have the same space (front and rear) between the top of the fender and the top of the white wall.

The rear of the car in the photo is OK to me, just lower the front a little and it will have a forward stance even when parked.


        I respect your thoughts about making it a low rider .   

        In my days of the 60's 70's we all loved to raise them up a bit .   

        I can't get excited about old cars slouching down . (2 cents)



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427carl wrote:
409Safari wrote:

Personally, I always try to set my cars to visually have the same space (front and rear) between the top of the fender and the top of the white wall.

The rear of the car in the photo is OK to me, just lower the front a little and it will have a forward stance even when parked.


        I respect your thoughts about making it a low rider .   

        In my days of the 60's 70's we all loved to raise them up a bit .   

        I can't get excited about old cars slouching down . (2 cents)


 I don't like low rider or ''pro street'' cars....I just remember my brother's 1969 Acadian (2 doors)) having the right stance (for me) from the factory, with the visual effect of the car being lower in front... 



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I think we are forgetting that a lot of the cars looked like this factory photo. I don't think the stance was always ideal.

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If Im not mistaken, the B bodies of the 65-70 era that were big block F40 optioned had a slight nose up stance that I like.

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Like this: smile



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and like this 

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The 69 shop manual has The proper stance requirements for all 69 Canadian ponchos. Like just about all GMs in the day the back of the rocker panel was 1/2 closer to the ground than the front with a full tank of gas and no passengers or cargo.

The exception was wagons which were higher front and rear (about 1 in front and 1.5 in back) so they sat dead level. The F40 option was basically the wagon springs on other models so an F40 car sat level and higher. F41 had no effect on ride height so that sat like a standard car.

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Will 69 cars pass a safety inspection if the ride height is not at Factory settings . 

just wondering   

 

 

I have a 88 survivor Suburban to get safetied and was wondering about setting it to stock height



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Seriously? In Manitoba nobody measures height for the safety unless it's ridiculously altered.

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Good stance here on this US car.



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Hey, I didn't say this is the way all cars must be, just that if the factory took the time to put out a detailed side profile, this is by and large how -they- thought the car should look.

I've got to dig into more info on the springs. I've had wagon springs in a coupe (a lot of people in the 80s did!) and didn't like it, so I -hope- that's not what F40 (mine's F41, same deal) is about. I was hoping a shorter spring with a higher spring rate.

John mentioned, and I think it's a great tip, that shimming factory springs rather than replacing them is the way to go. The rationale was, I believe, that the spring rate doesn't change with time even if they collapse a little, so if you shim them back to proper height you get the right rate too. Makes sense if true!  I seem to remember there bing about 20 different springs listed in the manual, of which we can now pick "small block, big block, or wagon".

In my scanned version of the parts book I don't have the illustrations section, and that's where the springs are listed (Section 7) 



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Yes, it sure would be nice if we could still order the exact spring that came in our cars new. As you say, SO many to choose from in the parts list.



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