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Low KM 1977 Le Mans Big Block - Newmarket, ON L3Y7B9 - $6,000.00


https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/markham-york-region/low-km-1977-le-mans-big-block/1313711378?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

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1977 Pontiac LeMans 2 door, 26000 original km, in storage for 30 years. Have all the paperwork since new. Paint, chrome, and glass like new. Big Block 455 oldsmobile motor with automatic transmission. Power steering, power disk brakes, pose rear end, upgraded aluminium rad., headers with dual exhaust, gauge package with tach, tinted windows.

$6000 or best offer No Trades Posting for a friend

Call Marty at 416-565-9496 or 905-853-5857 "Mr Posthole" Newmarket



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I for one don't expect to see an Olds 455 when the car is described as "Big Block"



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Me either . 454 or nothing   

I was actually looking at 73-77 history because of other brown car posted with sbc painted blue .   

Then I noticed that there was no listing for my 1973 orange sbc 350-4bbl



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Me either . 454 or nothing   

I was actually looking at 73-77 history because of other brown car posted with sbc painted blue .   

Then I noticed that there was no listing for my 1973 orange sbc 350-4bbl


 Carl, the US cars only offered 2 bbl on a blue block 350 in 1973, even the  GT. If you get Oshawa specs the L48 4bbl with duals is always listed as is the L65 350 2bbl except the Chevy L65 RPO code is replaced with the Pontiac RPO code as L30 both in Canada and US. The problem is so much inforamtion on line ignores Canadian Pontiac production, especially in LeMans, often even Oshawa , Plant #1 is omitted from production facilities as well. There is a special FSM Supplement for the Orange engines since Pontiac FSM didn't cover these. 

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I was expecting BBC...and now the price makes more sense too. If you're not going to have a proper big block, at least go with a Pontiac 400 or 455. At least it's not a 403.

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At least it's not a 403.





Took the thought right out of my head!

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A 455 olds could be a pretty STOUT motor.....not My choice...but they DO have fans......and deserve respect...

I came across a 70 gto once....with a 455 Buick in it.....That was bizarre....



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They use 455 Olds at the drags, I think they tune pretty good. Much more sensible parts wise to run a Chevy BB though, parts wise and cost of them.

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Its a Canadian Pontiac, deserves a Canadian Pontiac Big Block engine...

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73SC wrote:

Its a Canadian Pontiac, deserves a Canadian Pontiac Big Block engine...

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427carl wrote:
73SC wrote:

Its a Canadian Pontiac, deserves a Canadian Pontiac Big Block engine...

 

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I for one don't expect to see an Olds 455 when the car is described as "Big Block"


 Borrowed from MoboMac, same goes for Olds.........

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Just for the record.....and I DO know...ALOT.... about nothing.....but as I understand it.....331 and 350 Olds engines WERE a smaller block...than the 400/455's were.

And...the 403 Olds....which made a "stealth" appearance in about 90,000 1979 Trans ams...(with 6.6 Litre shaker decals)....was actually a stroked 350 small block.

That being said......A Buick 455 block...is substantially lighter than an Olds Chevy or Pontiac...of the same displacement....(maybe 100 lbs?)

Prolly one of the reasons why the 1970 GSX Buick.....ran faster than the SS454 Chevelles... in the magazine drag tests...of the day...If memory serves me...



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All the BOP 455's had good and bad points. Of the three I'd say the Pontiac was the clear winner.

As good as the Pontiac engines were, the Buick's have always been under-estimated, from the nailhead powered Riv's to the GSX's. People always seemed surprised. They flat out moved though...

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Do you guys remember when Popular & Performance Car Review (later Muscle Car Review) released their "Fifty Fastest Musclecars" in November 1984? Top spot was a '66 427 Cobra, second place was a 425hp '66 427 Corvette, third place was a '70 Buick GS Stage 1. They obtained data based on car tests published by auto mags of the '60s and '70s.

How can that be? A Buick? The third fastest muscle car and a Hemi killer?

Florida resident Roy Badie wrote to the magazine, "I am surprised at the bogus muscle-car reportAnyone whos owned a Hemi will tell you that the70 Buick GS ran like [it] was tied to a tree. Ill make my case simple: Bring on Vettes, Buicks, Shelbys, etc. in stock form and Ill be totally honored to accept any takers with my stock Hemi Mopars.

Richard Lasseter, founder of the GS Club of America had a response, "The stigma of Buicks being purchased solely by the Geritol Generation has finally been shattered!

Popular & Performance Car Review's Editor Donald Farr saw an opportunity to settle the debate and invited the two men to Gainesville Raceway. Little did they know they were making history.

Both cars showed up. Lasseter drove 125 in his GS, Badie trailered his car. Both were slightly modified with slicks, headers, and blueprinted street cams.

The Buick demolished the Hemi with a time of 12.30 vs Badie's 13.03. The muscle car world, especially the "Mopar or No Cars", were shaken.

Thrity years later Badie still reminisces and admits that all manufacturers had good running cars, "but if you found a bone-stock Hemi GTX and you took a bone-stock Buick Stage 1 from the showroom floor, it would be close, but I think the GTX would beat it. The Buick guys might disagree, but thats what I know. Back in 1985, it was more of a drivers race. But whatever [Richard Lasseter] did, he did a good job at it.



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Now that's trip down memory lane.....When Car Exchange morphed into MCR....it was the BEST car magazine you could buy....Sure I still have them all tucked away in a box...

I think ALL those cars really needed slicks and headers....to get into the low 13's......but it's pretty amazing what they are doing now....in the Pure Stock Drags..

An L88 Corvette...was the car to beat...for several years....and then Scott Tieman....with Russ Mahoney......put her on the trailer....with a 400 Ram Air Firebird...on F70x 14" bias ply redlines...

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I also remember that issue well (and the followup Hemi vs Stage 1 race). I don't think I'd kick either car out of my garage.


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