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1965 427 4 speed custom sport conv


There is currently  a 427/4speed rag on ebay. states its oshawa built. if i knew how to put the listing on here i would.



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copy & paste the link, or give us the item #. I just searched for it but couldn't find it.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-PONTIAC-PARISIENNE-BONNEVILLE-CUSTOM-SPORT/152945095457?hash=item239c3cf321:g:rcMAAOSwyytaqXKW&vxp=mtr

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Wasn't the first year for the 427 1966? This should have been a 409 car shouldn't it?

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57 Pathfinder wrote:

Wasn't the first year for the 427 1966? This should have been a 409 car shouldn't it?


 I think you're right ...my book says two versions of 409 for 1965.

and two  versions of 427 in 1966.



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This car is cool, isn't stock, but doesn't claim to be.

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I've read the ad a couple of times, and while there are no claims of it being original, there are no admissions to the contrary either. There are subtle insinuations that it could be stock, in fact it appears to be written in a way that tries to gently mislead in my opinion.

It's nice, but it doesn't know what it wants to be either. Why put American emblems on the car, then swap in a Canadian Pontiac BBC? If you're feeling the American thing, why not drop in a 421?

I love cars of all flavors, and I despise most car sellers.



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i thought the 409 was  only half way through the year then the big block  chev came in lets see the docs



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Alternator is on the wrong side........

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Chances are it was a 327 4-speed car originally. It is so easy to get VVS to send you the original as-built data on the car. In 1965 all 4-speeds were Muncies, and all 327 cars came with 12-bolt rears.

As for the 409s, they didn't build many in Canada and they apparently just used up the 409s they had sitting around until they were built out. I think there was a documented April built car with a 409 that rolled off the line in Oshawa. Maybe there were later cars built as well. When you have a few engines sitting around and only, say, a dozen orders for a 409 come through, they happen when they happen. It certainly was not worth it for GM Canada to do the big mid-year change to the Mark IV big block as they did in the U.S.



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I do know of a fellow just south of Calgary that has a '65 Pontiac 409 car. Huge collector of Pontiac cars and parts.

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I thought 65 was a 409 early and a 396 late and the 427s came out in 1966?

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seventy2plus2 wrote:

This car is cool, isn't stock, but doesn't claim to be.


 Yes, but the listing does omit just the right amount of information about the engine, and goes on to state that it is a factory 4 speed. The seller even talks about the Canadian GM documentation.



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if any one wanted top dollar for a  Canadian car ........ POST THE DOCS IN THE ADD



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for sharp eyed 409 philes its not a big block , no holes left for a certain part, cant see second fuel line



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can anyone enlarge the cowl tag im not having any luck



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You'd have to think it would have been a much better bet with the original 300hp 327 than the lump it has in it now.

 



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That would make a really cool car with the 327/300. And wow, how rare....

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

That would make a really cool car with the 327/300. And wow, how rare....


 I agree!  This car would interest me much more had it not been messed with.  Still trying to understand the logic of putting Bonneville emblems on it...



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Not only that, he'd modified the tail panel to put the extra tail light in. Not all bad but this is car would be neat as an original for sure.

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Yes, to keep it in perspective, it's still a nice car, but extra effort put in to make it 'less nice'.

I'd still drive it with a smile, but would have to put the Canadian ident. back in place! wink



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Yes, although I'd leave the optional cluster with oil and temp gauges in. Even though it's unique to US cars, it looks perfectly original and at home in our cars.

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I can't believe I'm saying this about a big block,  but I too think the car would be much more desirable with the 327 300 HP engine in front of that 4 speed. That was the hot set up in '65 since so few 409 cars were built. 

I can't really see where the car is emblemed as a Bonneville other than the rear bezel, which is in there because Bonneville taillights have been installed, way nicer taillights in my opinion than stock Custom Sport. All in all everything that needs to be can be put right but the asking price is way too high if you are acquiring this car to make it correct again. Its a very good looking car.



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Agreed, the Bonne tail is pretty good looking but I'd still want it back to original if it were mine. In this case, rare does equal desirable and that car in it's original form would certainly be valuable/appealing.

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