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First Death by Self-Driving Car - Pedestrian Killed


https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe

 A self driving Volvo vehicle, purchased by Uber, moves through an intersection in Scottsdale, Arizona, on 1 December 2017.

 

A self driving Volvo vehicle, purchased by Uber, moves

through an intersection in Scottsdale, Arizona, on 1 December 2017.

Photograph: Natalie Behring/Reuters



-- Edited by Greaser on Monday 19th of March 2018 01:33:31 PM

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"The robot cars cannot accurately predict human behavior, and the real problem comes in the interaction between humans and the robot vehicles," said Simpson, who has opposed the pilot self-driving programs in California.

 

Man, I can certainly wait for the day that I am driving along the 401 when a self-driving car sees a plastic bag blow into it's path and it slams on the brakes. Never mind self-driving cars, I'm talking about the so-called "automatic safety braking" (sic) feature standard on numerous new cars. That is a very realistic problem. They have trouble avoiding potholes, plus they are as dangerous in the snow as using cruise control on slippery surfaces.

I prefer a clutch pedal so that among other things I could disconnect when my drive-by-wire car decides to hiccup. Unfortunately buyers seem to all want SUVs that drive themselves and have 6 to 9-speed automatics that think they know what you want to do next (but they really don't).

 

The U.S. has more lawyers per capita than anywhere else in the world. Let's see what comes out of this. Of course the Government would prefer that we all have self-driving cars. Nice and controlled. And so boring that I would want to self-mutilate.



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I have no desire to be in or near a self driving car. Couldn't imagine one of them trying to navigate the roads here in PEI during the winter.

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One death too many!no



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Technology evileye, just because we can doesn't mean we should........nono



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I too am not in favour of self-driving cars.  Even if they ever get all the electronic crap to actually work and be safe in all conditions, I still am not ready to give up driving.  As a car enthusiast, driving has long been one of my pleasures in life and I don't intend to give that up until I am forced to, either through age/physical disability, or death.

I'm starting to think that the Rush song "Red Barchetta" is more prophetic than I ever realized before...



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CdnGMfan wrote:

"The robot cars cannot accurately predict human behavior, and the real problem comes in the interaction between humans and the robot vehicles," said Simpson, who has opposed the pilot self-driving programs in California.

 

Man, I can certainly wait for the day that I am driving along the 401 when a self-driving car sees a plastic bag blow into it's path and it slams on the brakes. Never mind self-driving cars, I'm talking about the so-called "automatic safety braking" (sic) feature standard on numerous new cars. That is a very realistic problem. They have trouble avoiding potholes, plus they are as dangerous in the snow as using cruise control on slippery surfaces.

I prefer a clutch pedal so that among other things I could disconnect when my drive-by-wire car decides to hiccup. Unfortunately buyers seem to all want SUVs that drive themselves and have 6 to 9-speed automatics that think they know what you want to do next (but they really don't).

 

The U.S. has more lawyers per capita than anywhere else in the world. Let's see what comes out of this. Of course the Government would prefer that we all have self-driving cars. Nice and controlled. And so boring that I would want to self-mutilate.


My friend disconnected his system immediately after a flying newspaper page made the car slam on the brakes in heavy traffic. He was lucky the guy behind wasn't tailgating.  Eventually he got rid of the car and I would agree, the more control to the driver is what we need not what a motion sensor decides.

 



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In Toronto we are doing a really good job with human controlled vehicles.........only killed 11 so far this year....

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73SC wrote:

In Toronto we are doing a really good job with human controlled vehicles.........only killed 11 so far this year....

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 Have to look at number of human controlled vs robot controlled on the road!   If 1000 to 1 or maybe 10.000 to 1...don't know the stat's



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Yeah, I'm kinda thinking it's not a fair comparison as there are very few self-driving cars actually on the road in everyday traffic.  Don't know what the ratio would be, but probably more like 100,000 to 1 or higher.

Plus... part of the idea of self driving cars is that they are supposed to be better than human drivers.  I realize the technology is still being worked out, but so far it's not looking so good.

I still haven't heard how the legal ramifications will work... if you have an accident is it the fault of the company who built the vehicle?  The company who designed the technology?  The organization who certified it for public use?  The 'operator' of the vehicle (or passenger, depending on the depth of the technology used)?  How about insurance?  Will it go up for you if your vehicle causes an accident?

I see the legal/political struggles to be just as significant as the struggle to make the technology actually work in all situations (which I don't believe is the case yet)...



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Another article here:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/20/us/self-driving-uber-pedestrian-killed.html



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