So it looks like getting regular fender patches really isn't worth doing for my car. However maybe smaller pieces could be used to patch up the rust areas. Does anybody know what gauge the outer sheet metal is? I'm leaving the inner and just coating with Tremclad. Todd's going to help with the cutting and welding in of new pieces. I also wanted to know how that trim is secured? Might decide to use that as the cut line and then blend paint below it, or just cut way down right at the rust.
pics are on this thread, sorry couldn't seem to save and repost from my computer, look on second and third page of thread
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Saturday 9th of February 2013 06:59:40 PM
beaumontguru said
Feb 10, 2013
I would use 18 guage, just make templates from cardboard, form them with you knee, or go buy a profile guage from Princess auto.
Really really glad to see you are repairing only the nessesary areas, whatever you do, do NOT buy new fenders, they will fit like crap, best to repair the originals as you are doing
Best of luck
Stephenzone said
Feb 10, 2013
want me to email ya all those pics?
RDubya said
Feb 10, 2013
I got one to save Steve thanks, I guess it didn't like me changing the file name lol
RDubya said
Feb 10, 2013
beaumontguru wrote:
I would use 18 guage, just make templates from cardboard, form them with you knee, or go buy a profile guage from Princess auto.
Really really glad to see you are repairing only the nessesary areas, whatever you do, do NOT buy new fenders, they will fit like crap, best to repair the originals as you are doing
Best of luck
Thanks for that info. Now if i didn't get it at Princess Auto, where would i go to get that guage of steel?
4SPEED427 said
Feb 10, 2013
I use old scrap hoods, roof panels etc. Someone local to you must have an old car with a junk roof, hood, fender, trunk, something you can cut a chunk from?
Pontiacanada said
Feb 10, 2013
Carl Stevenson wrote:
I use old scrap hoods, roof panels etc. Someone local to you must have an old car with a junk roof, hood, fender, trunk, something you can cut a chunk from?
That's the way to go ... don't just take the "flat" parts, take the "curves" also ... saves time fabbing-up a curved piece.
66 Beau said
Feb 10, 2013
Get yourself a couple of old hoods or trunks. Bent or rusted ones should be cheap. You can cut pieces out for the repair - and you can use pieces to practice welding and work out your heat & wire feed rate settings.
RDubya said
Feb 10, 2013
I just called my father-in-law about getting some old fenders. He's got a couple that he's not using on his 67 Malibu so i'm getting them for free for us to cut up and use. I'll pick them up next weekend. Having both fenders hopefully will give us lots of useable sheet metal.
Pontiacanada said
Feb 10, 2013
Good stuff ... genuine vintage GM steel! Sure beats Princess Auto's cheap steel made out of recycled Kias!
66 Beau said
Feb 11, 2013
I'm confused
If you can get two decent fenders from a Malibu, why bother fixing yours?
If his aren't too bad, I'd recommend getting an old junk hood or trunk or fender off something no one wants. Even if his Malibu fenders have a little rust, they're likely a better starting point for someone than the new, reproductions ...
RDubya said
Feb 11, 2013
I don't think the fenders are that good and i'm basing that judgement on having seen the rest of the car.
RDubya said
Feb 21, 2013
I took the fenders over to Todd's place on Monday. I didn't have a camera with me but believe me when i say these are no where to being mint fenders but they'll be perfect for cutting up and getting pieces to patch my originals!
Pontiacanada said
Feb 22, 2013
Good news Randy.
I'm about to cut the roof off this beauty for the same purpose (if needed down the road).
Darryl, that one looks in almost identical condition to the one I stripped the trim off for you a year ago or so. Same color and type of patina on the roof but yours has a little more. I wish our pick n pull would get some more of these oldies in there.
since 1983 said
Mar 1, 2013
i keep all my old body panels also , even if i dont use them for now , they will be available , personnaly i can t part out some orig GM Steel especially if they where on one of my cars .
RDubya said
Mar 3, 2013
So the repair got underway today. I'm helping as much as i can, Todd is a real maestro, here's pics of how the work went today.
4SPEED427 said
Mar 3, 2013
Good start!
What are you planning for the paint? Local paint store that can mix up up a small spray bomb to match?
Canadian Poncho said
Mar 3, 2013
It's a good thing welds grind down! We took a trip to the local NAPA. They do custom spray cans however they couldn't find the code on their computer. They are going to call the supplier on Monday. I managed to get the rest of the panel welded in, ground, and a coat of body filler. I'll take more photos tomorrow.
Magician40 said
Mar 3, 2013
Nice work guys. Using re-cycled metal is the way to go, it's the correct gauge and gets ride of some old stuff from your garage. It will look great. Brian
4SPEED427 said
Mar 3, 2013
It's Granada Gold, right? I thought you had posted a picture of the cowl tag but I can't find it. Is it paint code G on the tag?
-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Sunday 3rd of March 2013 09:10:35 AM
Pontiacanada said
Mar 3, 2013
RDubya wrote:
So the repair got underway today. I'm helping as much as i can, Todd is a real maestro, here's pics of how the work went today.
It keeps Todd "loosened-up" for his next big project! Good stuff!
MorePower said
Mar 3, 2013
great job guys! Just one fender or they both like that?
Redneck Rydes said
Mar 3, 2013
I found the old paint can when I did the 1/4 s The color I used was G8524ID it is for a 1983 NISSAN acrylic enamel, Napa mixed it up in a spray bomb around $22.00 Hope this helps
So it looks like getting regular fender patches really isn't worth doing for my car. However maybe smaller pieces could be used to patch up the rust areas. Does anybody know what gauge the outer sheet metal is? I'm leaving the inner and just coating with Tremclad. Todd's going to help with the cutting and welding in of new pieces. I also wanted to know how that trim is secured? Might decide to use that as the cut line and then blend paint below it, or just cut way down right at the rust.
pics are on this thread, sorry couldn't seem to save and repost from my computer, look on second and third page of thread
http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/t52260459/1967-beaumont-4-dr-cant-find-original-thread/
-- Edited by blacktransam on Saturday 9th of February 2013 04:45:10 PM
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Saturday 9th of February 2013 06:59:40 PM
I would use 18 guage, just make templates from cardboard, form them with you knee, or go buy a profile guage from Princess auto.
Really really glad to see you are repairing only the nessesary areas, whatever you do, do NOT buy new fenders, they will fit like crap, best to repair the originals as you are doing
Best of luck
Thanks for that info. Now if i didn't get it at Princess Auto, where would i go to get that guage of steel?
That's the way to go ... don't just take the "flat" parts, take the "curves" also ... saves time fabbing-up a curved piece.
Good stuff ... genuine vintage GM steel! Sure beats Princess Auto's cheap steel made out of recycled Kias!
I'm confused
If you can get two decent fenders from a Malibu, why bother fixing yours?
If his aren't too bad, I'd recommend getting an old junk hood or trunk or fender off something no one wants. Even if his Malibu fenders have a little rust, they're likely a better starting point for someone than the new, reproductions ...
Good news Randy.
I'm about to cut the roof off this beauty for the same purpose (if needed down the road).
So the repair got underway today. I'm helping as much as i can, Todd is a real maestro, here's pics of how the work went today.
What are you planning for the paint? Local paint store that can mix up up a small spray bomb to match?
It's a good thing welds grind down!
We took a trip to the local NAPA. They do custom spray cans however they couldn't find the code on their computer. They are going to call the supplier on Monday. I managed to get the rest of the panel welded in, ground, and a coat of body filler. I'll take more photos tomorrow.
Brian
If so, it's on this page using the link in Library here. WA3667, about 3/4 of the way down the page. Someone should be able to make you a bomb that matches perfectly using that. http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?manuf=GM&year=1967&page=4&rows=50
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-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Sunday 3rd of March 2013 09:10:35 AM
It keeps Todd "loosened-up" for his next big project!
Good stuff!