New member here as well as a new Chevelle owner. Can sometime tell me what badging goes on the fenders on a 66 Chevelle Malibu SS?? Is it just the cross flags or does it have the cross flags with engine size or is the engine size in script above the cross flags??
New member here as well as a new Chevelle owner. Can sometime tell me what badging goes on the fenders on a 66 Chevelle Malibu SS?? Is it just the cross flags or does it have the cross flags with engine size or is the engine size in script above the cross flags??
New member here as well as a new Chevelle owner. Can sometime tell me what badging goes on the fenders on a 66 Chevelle Malibu SS?? Is it just the cross flags or does it have the cross flags with engine size or is the engine size in script above the cross flags??
Thanks very much
Just the crossed flags. No engine designation.
from 1973-1976 my Dad had a 66 malibu SS 283 powerglide-it had cross flags and 283 above it. An old girlfriend's Dad is the original owner of a 66 malibu SS 327 4-speed it has cross flags and 327 above it. I had a 67 malibu rag this year it had cross flags and 327 above it, the neighbour has a 67 el camino it has cross flags and 327 above it.
I rember a 66 el camino with a 396 glide it had the big turbo jet cross flags as did the malibu SS with 396 or a super sport chevelle.
New member here as well as a new Chevelle owner. Can sometime tell me what badging goes on the fenders on a 66 Chevelle Malibu SS?? Is it just the cross flags or does it have the cross flags with engine size or is the engine size in script above the cross flags??
New member here as well as a new Chevelle owner. Can sometime tell me what badging goes on the fenders on a 66 Chevelle Malibu SS?? Is it just the cross flags or does it have the cross flags with engine size or is the engine size in script above the cross flags??
Thanks very much
Just the crossed flags. No engine designation.
from 1973-1976 my Dad had a 66 malibu SS 283 powerglide-it had cross flags and 283 above it. An old girlfriend's Dad is the original owner of a 66 malibu SS 327 4-speed it has cross flags and 327 above it. I had a 67 malibu rag this year it had cross flags and 327 above it, the neighbour has a 67 el camino it has cross flags and 327 above it.
I rember a 66 el camino with a 396 glide it had the big turbo jet cross flags as did the malibu SS with 396 or a super sport chevelle.
-- Edited by 67BBSD at 22:03, 2008-10-28
Hmmmm, so the 66 Mailbu SS came from the factory with a 283 as well as a 327 for small blocks??
from 1973-1976 my Dad had a 66 malibu SS 283 powerglide-it had cross flags and 283 above it. An old girlfriend's Dad is the original owner of a 66 malibu SS 327 4-speed it has cross flags and 327 above it. I had a 67 malibu rag this year it had cross flags and 327 above it, the neighbour has a 67 el camino it has cross flags and 327 above it.
I rember a 66 el camino with a 396 glide it had the big turbo jet cross flags as did the malibu SS with 396 or a super sport chevelle.
-- Edited by 67BBSD at 22:03, 2008-10-28
I stand corrected on this one. The BB cars got the 396 Turbo Jet crossed flag emblems. I had two of those cars so I know that for fact. The SB cars got the small crossed flags with the V. According to the parts manual 1966 did not get the engine designation but if you look at the illustrations it shows them but has the same part number for 283 and 327 emblems as the crossed flags. Wait until I contact the publisher. Thanks Ken. I almost messed hyperhenry up.
I want to confuse this more. I would say flags only for 283 and flags with 327 above them for 327. I base this on many years of wrecking yard observation....
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I want to confuse this more. I would say flags only for 283 and flags with 327 above them for 327. I base this on many years of wrecking yard observation....
Good for you ! I like a guy who will debate ! maybe it had something to due with the time of year-build date or ? my Dad's said 283 and Wayne's said 327
hey maybe some of the assemblers were lazy or overly ambitious ?
I have always been a trivia nut. Way too much maybe..........!
Anyway, I just went to my Canadian Chevelle parts book.
65-67 crossed flags, all same part number for 283 or 327.
65, 66 or 67 327 emblem, all same part number.
283 emblem, 1965 only. No 283 engine size emblem listed or 66 or 67 Only crossed flags listed for 66 or 67.
That is how I had always thought they were sold new. Does anyone have the factory brochures for 66 and 67 Chevelle? (Not that the brochures were always the same as production......)
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I have always been a trivia nut. Way too much maybe..........!
Anyway, I just went to my Canadian Chevelle parts book.
65-67 crossed flags, all same part number for 283 or 327.
65, 66 or 67 327 emblem, all same part number.
283 emblem, 1965 only. No 283 engine size emblem listed or 66 or 67 Only crossed flags listed for 66 or 67.
That is how I had always thought they were sold new. Does anyone have the factory brochures for 66 and 67 Chevelle? (Not that the brochures were always the same as production......)
Would work-my Dad's car may have been an early 66 using 65 emblems or some dealer may have decided it would look good with 283 logo seeing that the year before it could be had with a six
The crossed flags by themselves indicated 327 power in 1964, 283 power in 1966-67. Those flags were combined with separate 283 numerals in 1965 only. 327 numeral were used 1965-67. Incidentally those flags also were paired with 409 numerals on the big Chevies of 1964-65.
I dont know what the production figures were for the 1966 Malibu SS other than 499 L34 coupes and 50 L34 convertibles. The Malibu SS was a bucket seat and console package that also included special exterior trim. It was available on any 6 or 8 cylinder Malibu Sport Coupe or Malibu convertible, so actually production stats are not public.
A few years back I wrote an article on "The Obscure Malibu SS of 1966-67" that appeared on the Can-Am Chevelles & Beaumont website. It has been a couple of years and later articles have been posted in place of it. That article is included in a CD that a guy by the name of Dale McIntosh sells that covers as much info as you can find on all things 1967 Chevelle. It was also featured in an issue of the CCCB (Canadian Classic Chevelles & Beaumonts). I may as well post it:
"While in the United States Chevrolet was marketing the 138-series SS396, in Canada there was a curious version that was not well known or understood. In fact, its very existence is doubted by many - the Malibu SS of 1966 and 1967."
"Following on the heals of the 64/65 Malibu SS, where the SS was really more about trim than drivetrain, in Canada they continued with that marketing strategy. Although the 1965 Auto Pact between Canada & the U.S. would soon have a marked effect on model offerings, the 66 models were already committed to production."
"In the U.S. there were a number of different series, many drivetrain combinations and many options. In Canada they made do with only 2 series, simplified drivetrain choices and fewer interior options. In the U.S. there were 300 series, 300 Deluxe series, the Malibu and the SS396 series. In Canada there was only the 300 & Malibu series. Since there was no 300 Deluxe series for a base wagon, it was shifted into the base 300 series. Canadian production was perhaps 1/10th of that in the U.S. in terms of volume. Sheer economics dictated a more simplified lineup. For probably that reason alone, convertible production needed whatever means to get production figures up to the point where the body style was profitable to build after tooling up. Besides offering a convertible on the Malibu, there was also a 300 convertible to appeal to the traditionally thrifty Canadians. Combine that production with the Chevelles fraternal twin the Beaumont and it is likely that GM Canada built the cars profitably with that formula. However, the base 300 was not a big factor on convertible sales. For example, only 96 of the V8 300-series convertibles were built for 1967! There were never more than about 200 or 300 of those cars produced annually as six cylinder or eight cylinder models."
"As for the Malibu SS, it was the means by which you got bucket seats in your 135 or 136 series Malibu Sports Coupe or Convertible. In the U.S., the RPO A51 stood for Bucket Seats, but in Canada it stood for an option package referred to by GM Canada as The Sports Option. They may as well have referred to it as The Malibu SS Option since thats what it was, but it also turned a Beaumont Custom into a Beaumont Sport Deluxe. It even turned a Pontiac Parisienne (sort of a Catalina/Chevrolet hybrid) into a Parisienne Custom Sport. "
"The Malibu SS, or the 'Malibu with the Sports Option' (as GM put it so clumsily in the brochures), was a trim option mainly. You bought and paid for Bucket Seats, Console (except 3-speed manual column-shifted cars) and the low cost P01 Wheel Covers. Chevrolet would add the ribbed rocker panel moldings and matching rear quarter extension from the SS396. Malibu SS emblems sourced from the 1965 models adorned the quarter panels. Front and rear it was pure Malibu, lacking any hood or grille modifications whatsoever. Out back for 66 they simply used Argent paint fill in the Malibu rear cove to differentiate the SS. Under the conventional hood you could specify all the regular Chevelle engines; the 194, 230, 283 2-barrel, the327 275-horse 4-barrel, PLUS you could also specify the 360-horspower Turbo-Jet 396 V8. This was a legitimate situation where a 136-series car could have a 396, whereas today it marks a U.S. car as a fake SS. Transmission choices in Canada were pretty straight forward as well; 3-speed manual, 4-speed manual (M20 only) or Powerglide automatic. The only ornamentation that showed your Malibu SS as being big-block powered were the crossed-flags on the front fenders. The 396-powered Beaumont Sport Deluxe was a true sleeper since it used the same 'V8 insignia that was used on 283 & 327 cars. No redlines either for 1966. "
"The situation was much the same for 1967. In the U.S. you could get a Malibu with either bench or optional bucket seats and power ranging from a 140-horse six to a 325-horse 327 V8, and you could get an SS396 with either bench or bucket seats and a 396 with either 325 or optional 350-horsepower (375 horses added secretly late in the run). Meanwhile in Canada you could get a Malibu with bench seats and power ranging from the 140-horse six to the 275-horse 327. Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8. The Sports Option came with buckets, console, P01 wheel covers (now with SS center emblems), while GM gave the wheel opening moldings and ribbed rockers from the SS396 to you in place of the usual Malibu fare (lower body side moldings that ran aft of the front wheel to the back bumper). The Malibu SS emblem was again employed. The front and rear styling was regular Malibu, with no Big Block hoods being used even with a 396, and the rear was pure Malibu. They didnt even get any special rear end paint (Argent, Black or otherwise), to distinguish a Malibu SS. Oh, I almost forgot that the wood grained dash strip was used, along with the Malibu script above the glove box. At least the horn button said SS instead of Chevelle. For 1967 the 396-powered Malibu SS came standard with F70-14 redline tires mounted on 14x6 wheels. Also not even mentioned in the brochure, but somehow ordered by a few 396 buyers anyway, was the same low wide optional D96 side striping (the same one offered in the U.S. on the SS396 optionally). "
"So, do you now think youre finally straight on the Malibu SS in Canada? Well, they stopped with that scenario in December of 1966. Starting New Years 1967 the Malibu SS was gone. You could now get a 138-series SS396 as in the U.S., and you could now also get bench or bucket seats in your Malibu and still come out with a Malibu. No more 136-series cars with 396 power, it was 138-series only.
Cam Milne"
From what documentation I've seen, once the D55 console option appeared on Canadian Chevelles and Beaumonts, the 'Sports Option' ceased to be. My Chevelle was built on December 15, 1966 and the car in front of it had a D55 console, so it was just a Malibu with buckets and console, not a Malibu SS. I have seen a '67 Malibu SS that was built in late November '66 that had just the A51 option and no D55, yet it was present on the car (the guy ordered his Chevelle new and still has it to this day!)
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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.
In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...
Cam, Toronto.
I don't judge a man by how far he's fallen, but by how far back he bounces - Patton
"Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8."
I disagree with that statement. It is made to sound that all 67 Malibu's with buckets were SS cars and that is certainly not true from what I have seen and believe to be authentic.
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
"Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8."
I disagree with that statement. It is made to sound that all 67 Malibu's with buckets were SS cars and that is certainly not true from what I have seen and believe to be authentic.
The key thing to remember is that there was a running change. Early in the '67 production, all bucket seat Malibus were Malibu SS cars (and all Beaumont Customs with bucket seats were 735 or 736-series Sport Deluxe cars). Sometime in early December that stopped, and you could only get the 396 on a 138-series Chevelle SS396 which had just been added to Canadian production, or the 738-series Sport Deluxe, likewise just added. At that point you could order bucket seats on a Malibu or Beaumont Custom and have just that, a Malibu with buckets or a Beaumont Custom with buckets. At that point the big blocks were dropped from those models when the A51 Sports Option disappeared. No more Malibu SS or plain-hood equipped Sport Deluxe models.
I have early and late Canadian Chevelle and Beaumont brochures, plus a Beaumont parts book from GM Canada that I have studied quite a bit. I have also paid attention to the various cars I have seen around over the years and noted when they were built. I also have some Canadian 1967 Chevrolet Chevelle option and price lists. They differ from the U.S. options and prices. A lot of options were not available on Canadian-built cars, but selected U.S. models were offered as imported cars (like the SS396 initially before the Oshawa production was up, plus the Concours wagon. I also know of a documented 1967 GTO convertible that was imported new and sold out of Gus Brown Pontiac in Oshawa.)
I stand by what I said.
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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.
In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...
Cam, Toronto.
I don't judge a man by how far he's fallen, but by how far back he bounces - Patton
"Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8."
I disagree with that statement. It is made to sound that all 67 Malibu's with buckets were SS cars and that is certainly not true from what I have seen and believe to be authentic.
I'm with ya Carl-I've had malibu's with bucket seats that were not Malibu SS, I had a Sport Deluxe Beaumont and Super Sport Chevelles with bench seat-now for the kicker-I just e-mailed Wayne to see if he has GM vintage documentation on his 66 Malibu SS 327 4-speed-he's the original owner and it has a bench seat !
"Or you could specify Bucket Seats on your Malibu making it a Malibu SS and get engines ranging from the 140-horse six to the 350-horse 396 V8."
I disagree with that statement. It is made to sound that all 67 Malibu's with buckets were SS cars and that is certainly not true from what I have seen and believe to be authentic.
I'm with ya Carl-I've had malibu's with bucket seats that were not Malibu SS, I had a Sport Deluxe Beaumont and Super Sport Chevelles with bench seat-now for the kicker-I just e-mailed Wayne to see if he has GM vintage documentation on his 66 Malibu SS 327 4-speed-he's the original owner and it has a bench seat !
I've said nothing to contradict that. Come sometime in December 1966 Malibus could have bench or bucket seats. There were no more Malibu SS cars off the line. The SS396 came online in Oshawa and came standard with a bench seat. Same story with the Sport Deluxe. Come sometime in December 1966 the Beaumont Customs could now have bench or bucket seats. Also starting then the Sport Deluxe (now 738-series) was 396 only, gained a big block hood, and came standard with an all-vinyl bench seat or optional bucket seats.
You've got me on Wayne's '66 Malibu SS 327 with a bench seat. here's what I suspect. There was no restriction to ordering a bench seat Malibu (or any Chevelle) with a 327 and 4-speed. The 1966 Malibu came with wheel opening moldings, the same as a Malibu SS. The Malibu came with rocker moldings, but they were smooth, not ribbed like a Malibu SS (or U.S. SS396). An easy swap. Rear quarter extension moldings that matched the ribbed rocker were exlusive to the Malibu SS (& U.S. SS396) however. The Malibu SS used the same rear trim as a Malibu but added Argent paint in the rear cove (not hard to add). At any rate, whether it is a V8 Malibu or a V8 Malibu SS it will still be a 136-series. The trigger was the A51 option, which was buckets & console together (there was no separate D55 console option because in Canada it was included automatically unless you had a 3-speed column shift and you couldn't get the console).
I know they were different times, but I personally doubt that an inspector would allow the completed car off the line if it deviated from what it should have come with. A member here (Keith) worked at GM from late 1965 (retired December 2006). His first new car was a '66 Sport Deluxe with a 283. A friend of his worked on the line and ordered his own '66 Sport Deluxe with a 396. The car passed down the line without any engine stickers on it. At the final inspection they wouldn't release it because it didn't have the stickers on it. Keith bought the car from his friend after it was about 6 months old.
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67 Chevelle Malibu Sport Coupe, Oshawa-built 250 PG never disturbed.
In garage, 296 cid inline six & TH350...
Cam, Toronto.
I don't judge a man by how far he's fallen, but by how far back he bounces - Patton
I'm with ya Carl-I've had malibu's with bucket seats that were not Malibu SS, I had a Sport Deluxe Beaumont and Super Sport Chevelles with bench seat-now for the kicker-I just e-mailed Wayne to see if he has GM vintage documentation on his 66 Malibu SS 327 4-speed-he's the original owner and it has a bench seat !
Well, I would have lost money on that bet. I had always thought a 66 Malibu SS had to have buckets. That is interesting, and very cool!!! Hard to dispute if it's one owner with the pedigree!
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1966 Strato Chief 2 door, 427 4 speed, 45,000 original miles
1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars
I'm with ya Carl-I've had malibu's with bucket seats that were not Malibu SS, I had a Sport Deluxe Beaumont and Super Sport Chevelles with bench seat-now for the kicker-I just e-mailed Wayne to see if he has GM vintage documentation on his 66 Malibu SS 327 4-speed-he's the original owner and it has a bench seat !
Well, I would have lost money on that bet. I had always thought a 66 Malibu SS had to have buckets. That is interesting, and very cool!!! Hard to dispute if it's one owner with the pedigree!
Deepwater blue with bright blue bench seat-correct Malibu SS trim not just the emblems. Wayne bought the car new in the fall of 65-he has a Trans Am that he got documented so I e-mailed him to ask if he has GM Vintage for the 66-he knows what it is-he ordered it-but it'll be interesting to see what George had to say-this car was original paint in 87/88 when I dated his daughter-painted in the mid 90's
