You have obviously never been to Montreal... I think it also makes a difference in the gauge you are talking about - I think 65Camino is talking about the stuff they use in car bodies.
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You have obviously never been to Montreal... I think it also makes a difference in the gauge you are talking about - I think 65Camino is talking about the stuff they use in car bodies.
If you start buying floors, rockers, quarters etc, you cant "get it done" for the price of a new body.. Are you asking, if the bodies are made of recycled steel?? I asked before, and still wonder about the Camaro body.. I can get one for 15 , but someone said they didnt fit... Do you think they are better now?
No, I was thinking about getting a new "body" and wondered if it was worth it. I can get a rough driver car for a little more then what they want for these Dynacorn units go for.
I just bought the rust free Ventura for the same reason Once, you've had a southern car you wont want a 15,ooo fixer upper Because you can't get a rust free Mustang, the new one is the way to go my 2 cents.. Have you heard anymore on the fit ? My friend in New Brunswick is a dealer for (Dynacorn-Gold Leaf?) and was going to sell me one, I could pick up in Toronto
Ken have you ever checked out those thingies that attach to your car and get rid of the rust genes?? I would buy one for Chief and Sprint if they work....
Ken have you ever checked out those thingies that attach to your car and get rid of the rust genes?? I would buy one for Chief and Sprint if they work....
Keep it out of the dampness, don't drive it in the salt - then mix the salt with water and they'll be fine-likely last twice as long as they have so far seeing the first few years they were exposed to the elements, oil spray works for your drivers, never did anything with them gadgets but the salespeople sure swear by them
My Chief is a original panel Toronto car, that was not winter driven new, and undercoated by Andy in Moncton, and its in great shape, and its in very dry storage now.. I had a very smart man tell me that my Ventura, (new in California- lived in Oregon) will rust now that its in Canada... really He says the air is moist here, and the car will just turn to rust shortly
We have one of the rust boxes on our 01 grand prix and not a spot of rust,even the floor under the car is still gm gray.no undercoating also was done on this car!
My Chief is a original panel Toronto car, that was not winter driven new, and undercoated by Andy in Moncton, and its in great shape, and its in very dry storage now.. I had a very smart man tell me that my Ventura, (new in California- lived in Oregon) will rust now that its in Canada... really He says the air is moist here, and the car will just turn to rust shortly
how long will that take ? keep it out of the weather store it dry-it'll be fine
We have one of the rust boxes on our 01 grand prix and not a spot of rust,even the floor under the car is still gm gray.no undercoating also was done on this car!
I had a very smart man tell me that my Ventura, (new in California- lived in Oregon) will rust now that its in Canada... really He says the air is moist here, and the car will just turn to rust shortly
how long will that take ? keep it out of the weather store it dry-it'll be fine
I just let him ramble.. He "set the tone" about the "type of guy" he was... He was believing, that the Canadian climate, would turn it to a rust bucket in weeks! Its sitting in the garage with heat at 55 and a fan running circulating air.. So you think it will be OK til spring? lol
Remember the Comet Jet Aircraft that was withdrawn (Crashes due to metal fatigue) Remember the bridges in the USA that are now breaking up frequntly due to Fatigue?
We have one of the rust boxes on our 01 grand prix and not a spot of rust,even the floor under the car is still gm gray.no undercoating also was done on this car!
Whats the deal on it? What brand?
I had one of those electronic boxes on a 01 Lincoln LS. That car was rusty! I thought it must have been put on backwards, promoting rust.
Fatigue is a completely different failure mechanism Fatigue occurs in metals only when they are stressed (high loads applied). Over time stress cracks can develope and result in failure.
A stamped steel car body is not generally under much stress. Perhaps a car that is autocrossed may show signs of cracking in high stress areas. 64- 72 GM A bodies frames are very common for developing stress cracks in the forward area.
The bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis was determined to have the joint stiffening plates made from much thinner metal than spec'd. (I don't recall exactly but it was something like 5/8" plate instead of 7/8"). This resulted in a high stress concentration in the joints which lead to fatigue failure of the plates and ultimately the bridge. They are madly changing the plates on other bridges built by that contractor (I was told there were about a dozen more scaterred around the US).
If the correct plates were used the stress levels would never have been high enough to cause the fatigue failure.
Corrosion is a completely different failure mechanism although... Highly stressed metal is also more susceptible to corrosion.
Gary
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Damn Gary, you just typed a much more educated answer than i was going to give....
my simple answer: metal does not weaken with age. its is billions of years old before we even start working with it.
Age is not a factor on its own. other factors like stress, oxidation, temperatures etc affect metals and alloys...alloys in construction are designed to withstand several types of forces, shear, fatique, shapes and connectors are designed to resist moments etc...
Metal does not weaken with age, but the mechanical properties will actually change slightly over time. Coils of galv that come off our line actually are thought to have a "best before" time to get blanked by the customer. Old coils (old dogs) have been known to cause problems with the stamper in the past. If not mistaken, I believe the material will actually become harder with time.
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tell me that my Ventura, (new in California- lived in Oregon) will rust now that its in Canada... really He says the air is moist here, and the car will just turn to rust shortly 
