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RE: Started work on my Acadian 327 tonight


The one thing that strikes me as odd is that this set of rods and crankshaft have been together since 1965. I am using a different block and pistons but the rest has been matched since new. That is why I was not concerned about side clearance. Until I measured......................

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click on the link, it takes you to the book.
- not sure if swapping rods around is a good idea, considering the cylinder bore should be sized to the piston, and the piston is attached to the rod.  



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Thanks, got it now. Last time I clicked that link a bunch of the pages didn't load so I assumed it was a "sample" type thing and they wanted me to buy the book.

Not sure I want to start swapping rods around either since I know they've been paired like this since birth.

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this the first time you measured the side clearance?   would it make a difference at "normal" driving conditions?

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If your not comfortable with switching rods around , I would check out with a couple of machine shops for there advise. They should be able to take of what ever you need, if you even need to.  Before you put the pan on you should get some pro advice, dosn't hurt to be safe.

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Hear is a Hot rod artical about a 327 build and a rod side clearance problem of less than .009. See artical pics on left hand side ,scroll down until you get down to connecting rod side clearance play check .


http://www.hotrod.com/howto/51578_small_block_chevy_assemble/index.html

-- Edited by Beaumont4008 at 23:06, 2009-03-03

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Thanks Ian.

One thing I found is after I rotated it a couple of times they all loosened up a little, presumably because they "found" their position. After all, there is not possible way to tap in the piston/rod assembly perfectly square and the assembly won't twist easily in the bore.

I am going to try a few more rotations and then measure again.

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I am crossing my fingers for you Carl, I hope thats all it is. But it does make sense.
I just read my assembly GM book and does say  to tap each rod lightly (parallel to the crankpin) to make sure they have clearance. Then the next step says to check
all connecting rod side clearances. Maybe this also lines up the rods ends. 

   

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Will losen up, like a Vortec motor?

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I'm not sure what you mean Carl. Do the Vortecs have a situation like this?

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I was making a humerous reference to the early morning "rattle"   My 6.0L must have lots of clearance, cause it sounds like a Duramax at start up...then it warms up and only rattles 1/2 as much..disbelief..   When you said, these parts had been run successfully before, I figured your concerns, might go away..    I bet the clearances are better now.... You are brave to build your motor... I can never believe, that my motors will ever run again, after, I change a intake..lol

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Carl,  have not heard from you in awile and just wondering how your making out with your engine. Get it together and in your car yet ?

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X2???

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Yes, I was thinking about Carl S. on the weekend and his lack of posts. I figured he must still be occupied with post flood chores on the acreage.

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This year has been a bit of a mess for me. Numerous "challenges" have come my way and really knocked the wind out of my sails. I am trying to turn things around. Part of that includes trying to get back into my routine of reading the new posts on here daily to see if that will help pull me out of my slump.

That 327 has not been touched in quite a while. No Acadian on the road for me this year I'm afraid. I have promised myself I am going to get back into doing some car stuff at least some, one or two evenings a week.

I'm sorry I kind of fell under the radar for a bit. I really didn't feel much like posting for a while.

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Monday 20th of July 2009 12:19:15 PM

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Good to see your comments and know that your back on. No need to apologize as there are alot more important things in life that have to get dealt with too. We are all at different stages and sometimes we have to adapt.

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Our son is 14 and has purchased his first car, a 94 Roadmaster sedan LT1 so he and I have some work to do to get it ready to safety. That has been a lot of fun so far, working together with him on it.

Now on the weekend a relative donated an 82 Regal to him. We have to pull the engine/trans and install it in an early Acadian and once he does that (with my help) he gets a free car!

The best part of all this is that my major dilema with my work situation has been resolved. I will actually get some summer vacation time after all...

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Nice to here from you Carl,  There is nothing like working on a car with your son to put a smile on your face.  I realy think you will enjoy that.

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good to hear from you carl, you've been missed. smile

keep your head up. wink



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Good to see you back are up to a CP coffee night. Great to hear you and the boy are working on the Roadmaster

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Good to have you back.  Been pretty boring without you.......

just kidding everyonebiggrin

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Haha, thanks Dave for the "almost compliment"......!!!!!evileyeconfuseashamed

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

This year has been a bit of a mess for me. Numerous "challenges" have come my way and really knocked the wind out of my sails. I am trying to turn things around. Part of that includes trying to get back into my routine of reading the new posts on here daily to see if that will help pull me out of my slump.

That 327 has not been touched in quite a while. No Acadian on the road for me this year I'm afraid. I have promised myself I am going to get back into doing some car stuff at least some, one or two evenings a week.

I'm sorry I kind of fell under the radar for a bit. I really didn't feel much like posting for a while.

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Monday 20th of July 2009 12:19:15 PM



       Thank God your charged up a bit!   Maybe I can get some rest now! lol   Carl

 



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Digging up my old Acadian post.

If you've been following the thread "what did you get done today...." you saw I had a 327/200 Overdrive to swap from a Regal into a 63 Acadian wagon. That is now done and I can get back to my car. Today the two white Acadians swapped stalls (mine is now in the heated garage) so I hope to be back posting progress pics shortly.  Problem is, I pulled a muscle in my back today, or something like that anyway. That may delay work a few days till it improves.

But anyway, here it is, back in the cozy parking spot! I'm excited! DSCF0032.JPG Just have to do a bit of garage cleanup first...




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Hurt the back you got your boy there just point and give orders will be done in no time

-- Edited by 57poncho on Sunday 27th of December 2009 01:22:44 AM

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Haha, nope, this is the car his sister gets. He gets the 67 SS! He better be willing to help me with that one when the time comes!

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