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those !#$%^&*! springs inside the rear drums!

But I got'er done, the drivers side at least:

Before:

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After:

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Decided to upgrade to self-adjusting brakes back there, added more !#$%^&*! springs to deal with blankstare

*ka-sproing* shot parts across the garage less than a dozen times I believe smile.gif

Parking brake spreader bar spring was broken so had to find them, none of the Chevy sources had them but Corvette Central did (or Canadian Pontiacs of that vintage are the same as early straight-axle Corvettes). I bought 2 sets so if anyone needs one, let me know, eh?

Now to do the other side ... and while I was back there, and turned the rear axle hub to paint it, I heard and felt the dreaded bearing rumble ... so new rear wheel bearings and seals are on back-order, that'll be the next step back there I guess. Along with installing new Positraction and 4.11 gears ... might as well do the whole rear axle innards at once.

Always lots to do! But it's my retirement project so I figure I've got as long as I want to work on the old girl biggrin.gif

And one of these days she'll be on the road runnin' nod.gif

Dave

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Do you have a spring tool? They make life much easier!

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Yes but even with all the options that thing applies, it was still a challenge to find a leverage point then pull on those springs and get them off (and, worse, on). Actually sometimes a needlenose pliers allowed better grip and leverage. Anyhoo, the job required several pauses to reconsider the proper technique (not to mention chasing springs around the garage, including one little devil that found its way underneath the air compressor) smile.gif

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  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering
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I seem to remember a few tense moments installing the springs on my 54 Chevy. The 69 Pontiac went very well.

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dave,
here's another those 'favorite' tools....

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-SNAP-ON-NO-BT11-BENDIX-BRAKE-SPRING-TOOL-GOOD_W0QQitemZ160337615294QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20090526?IMSfp=TL0905261510004r23417

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snap on makes it.
works great, removing and installing those springs.
those cheap plier style ones will teach you 'new words' everytime. wink

-- Edited by 69 belair on Friday 29th of May 2009 07:26:39 PM

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Thanks Dave, I will catch up with the Snap-On man this coming week and buy one!!!!!!!!!

You are surely right about the cheap plier type that I was using angered.gif

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  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering
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LOL.. I here yah! I have had a few flying across the garage. And yes its all about the right tool.wink

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Gonna add some more pictures, here's what was in the self-adjusting brake kit:

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The top half is all replacement springs etc., the bottom half is the self-adjusting mechanisms which are mirror image side-to-side, here's the left side assembled from the directions:

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Here's what the end result is supposed to look like:

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I think I did mine OK? Comparing to my original posted picture of end result, the only difference is how the bottom spring is hooked in, but I don't think it would result in different (small) clearance to the star wheel either way?

For comparison, here's what the right rear should look like (thanks to Ghost Post for sharing this):

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Dave

-- Edited by davelacourse on Sunday 31st of May 2009 11:25:00 AM

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Always gratifying to compare the old and nasty to the new and beautiful, here's my wheel cylinders before and after:

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Yucky gunk galore smile.gif

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So pretty you could kiss it smile.gif

Oh, if anybody needs a pair of rebuild kits for these wheel cylinders, just let me know, I'll send them to you ...

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Yes....biggrin

 

I need for my rear drums
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-- Edited by Micky on Sunday 31st of May 2009 01:33:24 PM

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Hey Micky does not matter how far away, as long as a postman can get to you, I will get these to you smile.gif

Just PM me your address.

One pair of rear wheel cylinder rebuild kits for 1955-1972 Chevy (same as our Canadian Pontiacs), right?

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  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering
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guys, check the cylinder diameter....

the a-body is likely smaller than the b-body. wink

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thanks you

I going to send my address

When they arrive I going to put as soon as posible

my car would take your aid, your name by many years

  I need and recive any help to finich my beaumont 67

thanks you again



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69 belair wrote:

guys, check the cylinder diameter....

the a-body is likely smaller than the b-body. wink



 My cylinder diameter to my beaumont 67  it`s 1/8

 

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micky,

your's is actually 7/8"

i think the big car is 15/16" or 1" confuse



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69 belair wrote:

guys, check the cylinder diameter....

the a-body is likely smaller than the b-body. wink


Yes, sorry Micky, mine are 1" diameter - part number Raybestos WK21, and yours are smaller, part number Raybestos WK423 - so my rebuild kits will not fit your cylinders cry

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  1964 Acadian Beaumont SD convert, 283 - factory 195 hp, Powerglide, 3.08 10-bolt - Cruiser

  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering
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69 belair wrote:

guys, check the cylinder diameter....

the a-body is likely smaller than the b-body. wink


Dave, I am sorry, I did not thank you for pointing this out. Saved both me and Micky time and effort.

I really appreciate your help. thumbsup.gif

Dave (I guess I should say Dave2 since you were here first?)

 



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  2012 US-built crew cab truck - Daily Driver and Boat Trailering
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