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Collectible Automobile - October 2009


Acting on a tip from Astro-Jet I picked up the Collectible Automobile October issue. Boys this is a $14 magazine with taxes BUT what a treat. The feature article is on the 73-77 LeMans cars. It is jammed packed with info on the design and loaded with photos of clay models and sketches.

As many may know the 73 was intended to be the 72 except for a UAW strike. Some of the design cars are stunning -  hard to believe what was produced. Of course Pontiac was at the top of it's game in 1969 when these cars were penned and things changed from the pinnacle of the muscle car to the oil embargo and government crash standards in a short time span. There are some awesome GTO clay models that anyone would have been proud to own as a '72. Even some interesting experimental Grand prix roof line photos.

I would be illegal for me to scan and post this so if you want to read about cars that were suppose to set the market on it's ear but didn't, this is for you.

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Thanks for the heads up. I'll pick up a copy. Any mention of Canadian built LeMans?

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hey ray, we gathered enough $$ for the SS427 pkg, i think we could raise enough bail money too.

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I'll see if I can scan one or two sections. No mention of Canadian cars, in fact I'd say as normal completely ignored because they run down the engine line ups and of course no Chevy's mentioned until 77. Also as normal thereis the odd fact I would dispute but overall an excellent article supported with never before seen photos.



-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 1st of September 2009 08:31:55 PM

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scan it and send to me   I will post it    I am too old to go to jail now!!   lol lol

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I scanned a few pages but they are PDF files so I can't figure out how to load those. I may have to redo them in JPEG. Give me some time.

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It's always been a favorite car magazine of mine. There have been some inaccuracies I've caught over the years, but the research is good reading, and photo quality well done for the price.

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73SC wrote:

I scanned a few pages but they are PDF files so I can't figure out how to load those. I may have to redo them in JPEG. Give me some time.




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Thanks Bob, appreciate your kind effort but all I get is an error message in Spanish when I use that LOL!

Anyway I fired up the scanner here at home. I hope this was worth the wait!

Lemans design cars 73 1.jpg

Lemans design cars 73 2.jpg

-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 1st of September 2009 10:12:33 PM

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Don't worry Ray, we won't tell.wink

I think I am going to finally break down and get a subscription to Collectible Autombile.  Expensive, but a great resource and very well done.  I read each issue cover to cover.  I like their articles on future collectible vehicles and memoribilia for each vehicle featured in that issue.  I usually end up buying 4 or 5 of the 6 annual issues anyway, so I'm sure a subscription would work out cheaper.



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No question Hillar it is absolutely high end. I like the valuation guide on the featured cars too and as you mentioned the memroibilia section with values on the featured cars is a nice addition too.

I noticed some of those "LeMans" design cars were branded "Firebird", wonder if that was ever a serious consideration to take the F body nameplate to the larger A body or maybe just styling element exercises.

Remember that these were first drawn and built in 1969, interesting how the look is so different without the chrome park bench crash bumpers.



-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 1st of September 2009 10:41:49 PM

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Thanks for doing that. Just amazed at those concepts.

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I picked up a copy a few weeks ago at the local Barnes & Noble. Great article. I sent Don Keefe a note thanking him for writing such a detailed article. It will make a good reference for future conversations.

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Cool article!.

From the style of some of the pics it sure looks like they were using Alex Tremulis' prototype Tucker Talisman drawings as inspiration?.


tremtalisman.jpg

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BillyGoat73 wrote:

I picked up a copy a few weeks ago at the local Barnes & Noble. Great article. I sent Don Keefe a note thanking him for writing such a detailed article. It will make a good reference for future conversations.



I'd agree Bill, but I have an issue with the whole NASA vs. NACA terminology. GM Canada clearly and consistently marketed the hoods as NASA type. Makes no diference what the scoop actually is that's what the manufacturer of it called it in Canada. Would also be nice to one day include info on Canadian Cars, regarding Chevy power and special models, for example the Canada Cup GT is as unique if not as rare as a Can Am.  twocents.gif

 



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Cool article!.

From the style of some of the pics it sure looks like they were using Alex Tremulis' prototype Tucker Talisman drawings as inspiration?.


tremtalisman.jpg

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Looks like all the Pontiac guys did was use a photocopier !

 



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73SC wrote:

BillyGoat73 wrote:

I picked up a copy a few weeks ago at the local Barnes & Noble. Great article. I sent Don Keefe a note thanking him for writing such a detailed article. It will make a good reference for future conversations.



I'd agree Bill, but I have an issue with the whole NASA vs. NACA terminology. GM Canada clearly and consistently marketed the hoods as NASA type. Makes no diference what the scoop actually is that's what the manufacturer of it called it in Canada. Would also be nice to one day include info on Canadian Cars, regarding Chevy power and special models, for example the Canada Cup GT is as unique if not as rare as a Can Am.  twocents.gif

 



That would be a good read in the Astro News Flash.

 



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That would be a good read in the Astro News Flash.

 



I'd need to get permission to reprint it. Next issue is all lined up, some neat stories this time. I hope to have it mailed earlier this time, shooting for in the mail by September 30th.

 



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73SC wrote:

BillyGoat73 wrote:

I picked up a copy a few weeks ago at the local Barnes & Noble. Great article. I sent Don Keefe a note thanking him for writing such a detailed article. It will make a good reference for future conversations.



I'd agree Bill, but I have an issue with the whole NASA vs. NACA terminology. GM Canada clearly and consistently marketed the hoods as NASA type. Makes no diference what the scoop actually is that's what the manufacturer of it called it in Canada. Would also be nice to one day include info on Canadian Cars, regarding Chevy power and special models, for example the Canada Cup GT is as unique if not as rare as a Can Am.  twocents.gif

 



That NASA vs. NACA discussion has been going on for years. The sales literature says NASA scoops because nobody knew what NACA meant back then. The term referenced the design of the scoop.

Needless to say, the check box on the order form said "Ram Air", so I call it a Ram Air hood. Early version with vents along the windshield and later version without.

 



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Ha, I'm only a year behind the times, I just ordered the article as a back issue this week.

Also ordered the back issues with 73-77 Chevelles and the 73-77 Cutlass.

Four to six week delivery.

I think I hear the mailman now, gotta go.........

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They also did an article on the '73-'75 Grand Am. Volume 13 Number 3.

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Keep an eye on Ebay. Lots of back issues show up there. I love this magazine.

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I have every issue since day one, the only magazine that I collect. You can't beat the quality and yes, sometimes there are mistake's but that's quite uncommon. The magazine first came out in 1984.

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76GLM wrote:

I have every issue since day one, the only magazine that I collect. You can't beat the quality and yes, sometimes there are mistake's but that's quite uncommon. The magazine first came out in 1984.



Agree, best magazine on the market; like you I have every issue since day 1.

 



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The Grand Am issue is out of print. I will check eBay. Thx.

So far no article on Colonnade Buicks.

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