I am feeling down, like I am in a hole!

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I am feeling down, like I am in a hole!

67HEAVEN · Poncho Master!

Oops. Better get on the HazMat suit. smile

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

tile not working-need longer eve troughs for now

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

So I go to Home Building Centre to see Don, my long time friend for some "sealer "for wall biggrin

Don says; you are sealing the WRONG side of the wall!!!! I think Hes nuts disbelief

.. He said he wEnt through the same thing, at his house, and leak was in a crack on blockwall confuse

I reason that the water is coming from the drain pipe pointing at the ground from our new LG A/C (last year) bleh

BUT I start digging biggrin

go down by window.. and no cracks!! keep going and thee it is a repair from 1975-79? as house was built in 75 and we moved in 1979 Looks like a big deal !! I think I will raise the whole house up, and put a all new foundation under it and then no more leaks hmm

pipe in extreme left is from A/C It was actually dry all the way down to bottom of window

hmm there the crack! actually a little hole at ground level

Raining now gotta stop

57poncho · Uber Guru

Clean it out put some glue and hydraulic cement and it should fix it

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

right down to the bottom? paint it with the black stuff what about tar paper over that? or that membrane stuff

57poncho · Uber Guru

As far as the crack goes. I have never put the membrane on but i,m sure it wouldn't hurt. The biggest problem is cinder block basement I would never buy one. I don't think you can put them in in Manitoba any more

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

right down to the bottom? paint it with the black stuff what about tar paper over that? or that membrane stuff

Yep, paint it with foundation coating, then put a strip of membrane on it, then coat it again.
How's the rest of your foundation? It doesn't look like it has been coated at all.
When you back-fill, slope the grade a bit more away from the house on both sides of that corner.

If you are working around/tearing out that mouldy wood in your basement, wear a dust mask.

-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Friday 2nd of October 2009 11:28:19 AM

pontorquer · Poncho Master!

Don't feel bad, my old 1900 house storage basement ( 5 feet high) leaks too, needs crack repairs as well or new foundation or bulldozered down to build a newer house... $$$ !

seventy2plus2 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I've seen this repair work done on "Holmes on Homes" a number of times. Yup, you've got to repair it properly or it will continue to leak.

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

pontorquer wrote:

Don't feel bad, my old 1900 house storage basement ( 5 feet high) leaks too, needs crack repairs as well or new foundation or bulldozered down to build a newer house... $$$ !

We have a 7' high Island Stone (hand-carved red-sandstone blocks) foundation with no mortar/cement between them. Each rectangular block weighs about 500 pounds. Just a dirt floor. That's what's holding up our 150+ year old house.
No outside coating or weeping tile ... because of the sandy red soil here on the island, the water just percolates down (even in the heaviest downpours), and not a drop of water is in our basement.
The basement is just slightly damp, we just use it to store certain things. The two basement windows stay wide open 3 seasons of the year.
Yep, very different!

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

Don't muck around with that mold without a good respirator - like painters use. Ask my Connie about her dealings with mold. She was SICK for a long time from that stuff.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

69Laurentian wrote:

Don't muck around with that mold without a good respirator - like painters use. Ask my Connie about her dealings with mold. She was SICK for a long time from that stuff.

it was a little musky no mould The blocks are in perfect shape! looks like it was repaired there, in the first years built in 75 we bought 79 we never has a problem I sealed the walls inside tonight , as it rained today The is a little stream (dribble)coming in.. I will have to put cement inside and then get right to the bottom outside IF it dries up hmm

the hole is full of water... bleh

The rest of the foundation has been painted with the balck stuff.. Basement actually looks new. lol except for the previously repaired section...

you can see the crack come up , even under the parging above ground I presume that corner must have settled when the house was fairly new The whole property was backfilled with concrete/asphalt junk from the town I had to use mini van to pull out this piece of concrete.. disbelief

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

cdnpont · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Carl, with a stubborn leak, I've actually heard that in a tough case it's a "let it weep" attitude and capture and take it away to the drain inside the house.

Imop, dig to the tile is the way to go. But does it really need a "all the way round" to be permanent or not?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

I am going to dig to the bottom, and make a space for me to work... I think I only need to fix this spot.. The rest of foundation looks mint, even below window where a lot of cracks occur.. I will put concrete and tar? black stuff? and memebrane and concrete in side... I never thought of a drain inside, but I think I fix this.. the only reaon the water is seeping tonight is the hole with water in it bleh

lol before, this has been a seep over 12 months... My garage in my back year is sitting on concrete/ashphalt and it won't move lol I think house settled in first years and can't move any further.. I built a attached carport onto my garage I dug down for the beams. at 13 inches, I hit asphalt lol It never moved yet lol thanks

-- Edited by 427carl on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:22:16 PM

RDubya · Poncho Master!

I'm glad i didn't have to do any digging. Our sump pump is carrying out excess water and we haven't noticed any wet spots on our new carpet so i think we're good. Now i hope i haven't jinxed it. Carl i hope you can get that finished up before the bad weather comes.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

bad weather??? WHAT bad weather??? I will pump it out today, and I have a better system, to cover it and keep it dry I will have to dig some more to give me room to bend over and fix it biggrin

Bad WEATHER?

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

427carl wrote:

69Laurentian wrote:

Don't muck around with that mold without a good respirator - like painters use. Ask my Connie about her dealings with mold. She was SICK for a long time from that stuff.

it was a little musky no mould The blocks are in perfect shape! looks like it was repaired there, in the first years built in 75 we bought 79 we never has a problem I sealed the walls inside tonight , as it rained today The is a little stream (dribble)coming in.. I will have to put cement inside and then get right to the bottom outside IF it dries up the hole is full of water... The rest of the foundation has been painted with the balck stuff.. Basement actually looks new. lol except for the previously repaired section...

you can see the crack come up , even under the parging above ground I presume that corner must have settled when the house was fairly new The whole property was backfilled with concrete/asphalt junk from the town I had to use mini van to pull out this piece of concrete..

So you'll have to sue the previous owner for not disclosing the repair !

sounds funny, right ?

A friend sold a house seven years prior that he lived in with his ex wife for 5 years-thy bought it 3 years old, two summers ago the basement leaked-it was cracked "friend" had finished the basement and signed his name on the 2 x 4's here and there-guess what-the current owner is suing him for not disclosing a previous repair-he swears it musta been there before because he didn't fix it-and it never leaked for him ! the present owner was there 7 years before anything came in and that was during heavy rain. $100,000 law suit-whats the world coming too.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Wow I guess I better call on Monday I could use a 100,000.00 to buy your cars and finish them

Taylor55 · Poncho Master!

Carl dig down to the weeping tile on the wall that is leaking. Pressue wash the entire wall and use Blue Skin on the entire wall. Follow the directions that come with the Blue Skin. Make sure you have a few people helping because if the Blue skin touches together it is very hard to get apart. There is also another step to do before instaling the Blue Skin that is washing the wall with a special solution. I do not think you will have to use the tar when using Blue Skin. Before back filling insulate that entire wall with styrofoam.

Al

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Thank you I have not heard of Blue skin and the insulation is interesting! I like it..I have been trying to get to the bottom I dug a spot a little wider, for me to work I have pumped it out twice hmm

have it covered, and hope to finish digging today.. rain scheduled for next week! thanks so much

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

This is your wife's chance to give you the boot!

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

We used the minivan/truck/winterbeater to "tow" the piece of concrete slab/backfill out.. She could have given me a push. hmm

Shetook the photo She likes me.

sorry loader broke

-- Edited by 427carl on Monday 5th of October 2009 08:14:59 AM

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Yesterday I pumped hole out and dug for 2 hours... I found tile and it works! I had moved the eavestrough, around corner Sat "nite" I had water running in (dribble) Thursday, after hole got water in it from rain. Most of water came off eavestrough above hole!! After I reached bottom, I realized that the crack inside was still 99.9% dry!! I power washed wall and crack at ground level I sprayed water in crack at ground level!! and went in house and still dry inside???? I believe now that the water running/leaking(from eavestrough) onto crack at ground level IS/WAS the source of my leak.. Looks like rain all week, so I will have to wait for repair Maybe during that time I can verify my diagonstic

-- Edited by 427carl on Monday 5th of October 2009 08:14:32 AM