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DonSSDD wrote:

Plans Carl? BB & 4 speed? Nice finds.


 If only they were worth fixing, wouldn't that be a fun car? And the red one even is a manual trans already...

Both have Flinstone floors, most panels rotten. I just took a look at the red car frame and it looks pretty mint, which seems pretty funny actually. Nice thing is, they weren't sitting in the grass/weeds/mud, both of them were on blacktop. The other car is a Saskatchewan car. Not sure of the red car heritage really. 



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cdnpont wrote:

James, she looks so clean in the primer! Must feel good to see it at this point!

james primer.jpeg


 It sure does. Ended up spraying colour in the door jambs, trunk jamb, top of the cowl under the hood, and inside parts of the front fenders before I bolt them back up. Its a decent little car that Im hoping someone can enjoy cruising in.



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4SPEED427 wrote:
DonSSDD wrote:

Plans Carl? BB & 4 speed? Nice finds.


 If only they were worth fixing, wouldn't that be a fun car? And the red one even is a manual trans already...

Both have Flintstone floors, most panels rotten. I just took a look at the red car frame and it looks pretty mint, which seems pretty funny actually. Nice thing is, they weren't sitting in the grass/weeds/mud, both of them were on blacktop. The other car is a Saskatchewan car. Not sure of the red car heritage really. 


 Carl, the one time, and you forget to bring the magnet?



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Carl, the one time, and you forget to bring the magnet?


 LOL, I don't think I needed a magnet!

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I take it you checked with your wife before you made these purchases, like I always carefully do?



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She just rolls her eyes....we're long past the stage where she questions it.

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I m guessing but wagon frames are different?



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I haven't even checked but when I saw how good the frame was, that was my first thought!



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4SPEED427 wrote:

I haven't even checked but when I saw how good the frame was, that was my first thought!


 I think it's a little wider, couple of inches. But it has an extra cross member..



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LT1Caddy wrote:
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I haven't even checked but when I saw how good the frame was, that was my first thought!


 I think it's a little wider, couple of inches. But it has an extra cross member..


 Wider? That wouldn't make sense because the diff and all the chassis stuff is the same as sedan or hardtop as far as I know. Longer behind the diff I could believe.



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Cliff would know what if any differences between the wagon and HT/Sedan frame. He used a wagon frame for his 67.



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4SPEED427 wrote:
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I haven't even checked but when I saw how good the frame was, that was my first thought!


 I think it's a little wider, couple of inches. But it has an extra cross member..


 Wider? That wouldn't make sense because the diff and all the chassis stuff is the same as sedan or hardtop as far as I know. Longer behind the diff I could believe.


 You jogged my memory. The SW frame has reinforcing in it or it's boxed all the way down the side rail...Something like th



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LT1Caddy wrote:

 You jogged my memory. The SW frame has reinforcing in it or it's boxed all the way down the side rail...Something like that


 Hmm, that could be. I'll take a look tomorrow. Also gonna check my Hollander (Impala of course since Hollander interchange doesn't recognize our Pontiacs)



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My 67 Impala is sitting on a 68 Station wagon frame.

A mechanic who worked for me left to work for a shop equipment company that built alignment equipment and he had full access to all of the data. 

One day he got a call about the station wagon going  to the wreckers THAT DAY!!!!

I got the call and imediatelly drove to Ajax and found this beat up unit with no motor, transmission.  The owner pulled what he wanted and it was definitely destined for the wreckers.

I bought it for 35.00 and then he towed it to Oshawa no charge.

The next weekend my dad came to the shop on Sunday and we stripped the body mounting bolts and Monday morning the tow truck lifted the body off with a chain through the roof.

The next week we stripped the frame and shipped it off to the Metal Laundry for an acid dip and epoxy enamel.

Only major difference was at the rear bumper area.  one bolt was off a bit.  might have been due to the rear fender gas filler on the wagon.  Never  researched it too much.

Somewhere on the site are the two frame dimension charts i submitted.

over the next winter all new parts were installed on the 68 frame.

just recently added all new eurothane body mounts 30 years later.

 



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Excellent info Cliff thanks for posting



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Forgot to take a picture of the whole car after polishing, but it looked real nice, except for bumpers, those will get painted. IMG_8633.jpegIMG_8564.jpegIMG_8537.jpeg



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Tested my warning light, the old fashion way biggrin

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Dug into my files and came up with this one...

Easy to see the frame rails on the trailer ready for acid dip.

The one thing I have been curious about what was the vin number stamped in the rear axle frame rail. Never took a photo under the hood.

 

ss 04 68 Impala Doner car and frame 01 ready for aciid dip.jpg

 



-- Edited by oshawacliff on Thursday 30th of May 2024 09:38:42 PM



-- Edited by oshawacliff on Thursday 30th of May 2024 09:42:40 PM

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Spent last Sunday and Monday welding the windscreen frame, but of the VW Camper not the Parisienne. Of course, because my hands shake so much, it looks like pigeon crap until I grind it back!

Waiting for the estimate to fit the new rear quarters and rocker panels to the convertible................

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ABS light came on in my 94 Park Ave. I'm so thankfull I have an MT2500 Snap On scan tool and factory shop manuals! This car has the wonky OBD 1.5 system..

Looks like I'm into more than a simple wheel speed sensor fix. hmm



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Air con getting weak in our 16 Civic again. cool on the passenger side, warm on the drivers is the tell tale. 186k. Been a Great car. This Honda is #1200 of this gen out of Alliston, which is really early as numbers go.

It's had one condenser already along with a set of compressor seals. Honda has warranted these items well beyond the regular time limit as they are know to be defective (they all fail), and will honor it for another 5 years.

Now the evaporator is leaking along with the second condenser. The dash has to come out. $2200 bucks on us for the evaporator.

 

But we never spend much on this great little car but for regular maintenance, brakes, etc.

So we'll suck it up now because a new Civic is about 40k.

 

I'm of the mind, if it's a good car, it's worth it to spend some times to keep it going. Am I wrong?

 

 



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Air con getting weak in our 16 Civic again. cool on the passenger side, warm on the drivers is the tell tale. 186k. Been a Great car. This Honda is #1200 of this gen out of Alliston, which is really early as numbers go.

It's had one condenser already along with a set of compressor seals. Honda has warranted these items well beyond the regular time limit as they are know to be defective (they all fail), and will honor it for another 5 years.

Now the evaporator is leaking along with the second condenser. The dash has to come out. $2200 bucks on us for the evaporator.

 

But we never spend much on this great little car but for regular maintenance, brakes, etc.

So we'll suck it up now because a new Civic is about 40k.

I'm of the mind, if it's a good car, it's worth it to spend some times to keep it going. Am I wrong?

 

No, youre not wrong   


 



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cdnpont wrote:

I'm of the mind, if it's a good car, it's worth it to spend some times to keep it going. Am I wrong?

 


 This was a regular question at the dealership. Usually if the customer asked me my opinion, I asked him 2 questions.  1) Do you like the vehicle?   2) How much longer do you want to keep it?

If it was "Yes and I plan to keep it quite a while/drive it into the ground" then I said my thinking is it's a good idea.

But it's always that age old question, when is the right time to put a bullet into it to put it out of its misery?

 



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Any idea why all these parts fail? Poor materials? My son's 09 has almost 300k on it and the AC is still blowing cold. I have to say that it's been a great car for him. He says this generation of Honda Civic is the only cars he'll ever drive. I guess we should start looking for a low mileage example from out west at some point to replace this one at some point.



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Lots of problems too with heat or ac on one side caused by the actuator/doors failing. The new systems with dual controls have many more trouble points and electric motors on each door which can also stick and jamb. Heater cores are clogging causing lack of heat on one side. Happened on my Honda and VW.

The cores clogging is likely caused by these magic elixir unique lifetime coolants. VWs had a new coolant spec every 2 or 3 years, Honda is religious on having you use only their brand of coolant brake fluid, motor oil, transmission fluids, and gear oil. Out of warranty if you dont use their magic elixirs.


No such thing as lifetime coolant or transmission fluids. And many newer vehicles have no transmission dipstick?

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