Where my Suburban is....

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Where my Suburban is....

eeluddy · Uber Guru

"Boy a bare Northstar block isn't all that different from a 350, but the heads are massive works of art." They really are cool eh? If I was still a bachelor I would have one on my mantle over the fireplace!

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

eeluddy wrote:

"Boy a bare Northstar block isn't all that different from a 350, but the heads are massive works of art." They really are cool eh? If I was still a bachelor I would have one on my mantle over the fireplace!

I am sure I can get a photo of the Northstar heads, they were working on three engines today. Two out of STS's and one low mileage Deville, looked mint except it blew the head gaskets.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

A friend had a North Star for a 99 STS done there this past fall-he is pleased

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

67BBSD wrote:

A friend had a North Star for a 99 STS done there this past fall-he is pleased

That's good to know. Thanks Ken.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Sounds good biggrin

Don't forget to get your ownership changed to "rebuilt"! lol and make sure you get a new E-test evileye

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Oh ya the e-test....UGH ! I'm due in the fall too.

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

427carl wrote:

Sounds good Don't forget to get your ownership changed to "rebuilt"! lol and make sure you get a new E-test

interesting points-guess it won't be "numbers matching" should be disclosed at the point of selling.

I hear OMVIC and UCDA has some nice new rules protecting buyers-full disclosure (more than 2 panels refinished), background checks on all trade ins/purchases for a used car lot, 90 return policy if misrepresented in any way (full refund with interest).

Sorry to use your thread.

I think its great to fix it rather than throw it aside for political correctness and drive some cheap new miser type vehicle. I think its actually better to repair it than contribute to pollution by manufacturing yet another new vehicle. These GM full size are fantastic, I'm sure theres a ton of years left in it.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

67BBSD wrote:

interesting points-guess it won't be "numbers matching" should be disclosed at the point of selling.

I think its great to fix it rather than throw it aside for political correctness and drive some cheap new miser type vehicle. I think its actually better to repair it than contribute to pollution by manufacturing yet another new vehicle. These GM full size are fantastic, I'm sure theres a ton of years left in it.

I don't hesitate to repair it. We love that truck and feel lost without it. I wish I wasn't doing this job but as you say it is probably good for another 5-7 years. I could have had them rebuild my engine for numbers match but it will actually cost more in labour, I think that is straightforward enough to see, double the work, tear down then rebuild.

From an economic point of view a truck with no engine is worth scrap value, by repairing it at least I can get some value out of it should we decide to sell down the line.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Sorry to hear about your little extra expense. That sure sucks.

It will be fun to see the rebuild taking place if you can put up pics.

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

It's an extra cost for sure but not as high as you might think. Engine Re & Re for less than the price of a GM replacement engine. I could have saved $1,000 by going slavage yard engine.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

are you still putting the supercharger on it?

-- Edited by 427carl on Tuesday 5th of January 2010 11:44:41 AM

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

are you still putting the supercharger on it?

-- Edited by 427carl on Tuesday 5th of January 2010 11:44:41 AM

No, I had a hard enough time convincing Mary to go with headers and dual exhaust, afterall it is her daily driver.....I have not mentioned the new cam profile and the oversized pistons yet..... wink

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

oversized pistons? how will they fit? confuse

you Hot Rodders are all alike hmm

Trying to turn the highways into race tracks disbelief

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

oversized pistons? how will they fit?

you Hot Rodders are all alike

Trying to turn the highways into race tracks

You see Carl, there is a process known as boring, it takes metal away from the cylinders in the block and lets you put in bigger parts....

Latest Update: Engine is out and I am going over in the morning to snap a few shots of the wounded beast.

-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 5th of January 2010 02:40:09 PM

65Camino · Uber Guru

427carl wrote:

Sounds good Don't forget to get your ownership changed to "rebuilt"! lol and make sure you get a new E-test

Why do you have to change the ownership? The e-test should be good until it's scheduled next?

cupedition · Addicted!

Over sized pistons ????? Street racer !

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

It's not like we will be racing any one in a 6,000 lb. truck, just want a decent level of HP and torque wink

-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 5th of January 2010 04:31:55 PM

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

so you are saying, this engine is boring ?

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

Had one in my sts 6-7 years ago. Moved out pretty well. The wife love it. Alas, as the kids come, the toys go. Move over caddi, here comes the mini van!

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

so you are saying, this engine is boring ?

No, its getting bored.

67HEAVEN · Poncho Master!

73SC wrote:

You see Carl, there is a process known as boring, it takes metal away from the cylinders in the block and lets you put in bigger parts....

Famous quote from 1965.......
The transition from 396 Turbo-Jet to 427 Turbo-Jet was as simple as boring the Mark IV cylinder block to match its Mark II roots. As Duntov told Car and Driver in the fall of 1965, "....this was done primarily to save weight. You must remember that cast iron is very heavy, and by removing 30 cubic inches of it we have made a significant reduction in weight."
Zora Arkus-Duntov, former Chief Engineer - Corvette

Of course, Zora was kidding, but there was nothing funny about the Corvette's 425 hp 427, a brutal big-block that owed nothing to any other production-powerplant on the planet. wink

67BBSD · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

73SC wrote:

67BBSD wrote:

interesting points-guess it won't be "numbers matching" should be disclosed at the point of selling.

I think its great to fix it rather than throw it aside for political correctness and drive some cheap new miser type vehicle. I think its actually better to repair it than contribute to pollution by manufacturing yet another new vehicle. These GM full size are fantastic, I'm sure theres a ton of years left in it.

I don't hesitate to repair it. We love that truck and feel lost without it. I wish I wasn't doing this job but as you say it is probably good for another 5-7 years. I could have had them rebuild my engine for numbers match but it will actually cost more in labour, I think that is straightforward enough to see, double the work, tear down then rebuild.

From an economic point of view a truck with no engine is worth scrap value, by repairing it at least I can get some value out of it should we decide to sell down the line.

I agree-good move to fix it-what could you replace it with anyway-engine job is dirt cheap compared to the replacement of the vehicle.

im2ner · Addicted!

if you dont mind what Cam & Headers are you going with ??

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Dunno yet, going to the shop in the morning to discuss.