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Australian Pontiacs


I received an e-mail from another member here, asking me if I could help, by posting info he received from a friend in Australia.
Apparently we have limits on how long a post can be. Who knew?
I will break it down so it fits, I hope.

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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


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Subject: PCCA-Q News : Queensland Pontiac Census 2010


Recently, we approached the Department of Transport and Main Roads (formerly Queensland Transport) to
see if we could get a gauge on the registered Pontiac population in Queensland. Although little known, there
is a data analysis unit within this department that handles all types of statistical requests, covering registration,
licensing, infringements and road accident data.

As a bona fide body, we as a club can request statistical information from the Transport Registration And
Integrated Licensing System (TRAILS), at no cost. I was sent a request form to fill out, the normal request
return time being a couple of weeks.

What we asked for was a number of statistics on Pontiac registrations - the total number, split into year of
manufacture, the geographic regions used in reporting, and the car models. Data was supplied as a snapshot
of the situation as at 6 May 2010.

The latter request, by car model, was considered of less value, as a lot of older registrations did not record this
e.g. 1965 Pontiac Coupe - just year, make and body style. Model is now recorded in addition.

The total number of registered Pontiacs as at 6 May 2010 is...........................696


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 

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PONTIAC REGISTRATIONS BY REGION AND YEAR - 6 MAY 2010

S EAST S EAST
Year NORTH SOUTH SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH I'STATE TOTAL
1926 2 2
1927 1 1 1 3
1928 2 2 3 3 10
1929 3 1 3 1 8
1936 2 2
1937 1 1 2
1938 1 2 1 1 1 6
1939 1 2 3
1940 1 1
1946 1 1
1947 1 1 1 3
1948 1 1 2
1950 1 1 2
1951 1 1 2
1953 1 1 1 3
1954 1 1
1955 1 2 1 4
1956 1 2 3
1957 6 1 1 8
1958 4 4
1959 1 3 1 2 7
1960 3 6 1 10
1961 2 2 2 2 1 9
1962 2 1 1 1 5
1963 6 13 3 1 23
1964 5 8 1 3 1 18
1965 6 11 3 2 7 29
1966 9 13 3 1 2 28
1967 12 12 5 1 2 2 34
1968 15 25 10 6 7 63
1969 8 8 5 4 3 28
1970 3 7 1 1 1 13
1971 4 7 1 1 13
1972 2 1 1 4
1973 1 3 1 2 2 9
1974 5 5 2 2 14
1975 2 2 2 1 2 9
1976 4 2 1 7
1977 10 4 2 1 3 20
1978 6 9 5 7 1 28
1979 6 14 7 7 6 1 41
1980 3 1 1 1 2 8
1981 1 3 4 1 9
1982 3 9 3 1 3 19
1983 1 6 2 2 11
1984 6 7 3 4 20
1985 5 7 4 3 2 21
1986 8 15 1 2 4 30
1987 6 8 2 3 1 20
1988 4 7 3 1 15
1989 2 3 3 1 3 1 13
1990 1 1 1 3
1991 2 2 1 5
1992 1 1 1 1 4
1993 1 2 1 4
1994 1 2 3 6
1995 1 8 2 1 12
1996 2 1 3
1997 2 2
1998 2 2
1999 1 1
UNK 1 2 1 1 1 6
Total 168 274 106 65 76 7 696


Region explanation :

South East North - Northern suburbs of Brisbane, and Sunshine Coast
South East South - Southern suburbs of Brisbane, and Gold Coast
Southern - West of Ipswich, Gympie to Bundaberg, and west. This region encircles the South East regions.
Central - Gladstone to Mackay, and west
Northern - Bowen to Cape York, and west
Interstate - interstate address

UNK in year is unknown (!)

Looking at the total number by year, this graph shows the age distribution of the population:



1968 is by far the most popular year for a Queensland registered Pontiac. The sixties are a relatively well
represented decade, although fifties Pontiacs are rarer than what we thought.

The other peak years are 1977-1979 (Bandit Trans Ams), and the eighties third generation Firebirds from 1982
(no doubt due to the popularity of Knight Rider).

Numbers then drop off in the nineties, other than for 1995.


The only registered 1940 Pontiac, which is on the Sunshine Coast.


Member Rob Pike's 54 is the only registered Pontiac of that year. Rob is shown as 'Southern Region'
as he is from Gympie, and the model Chieftan was also shown in the detail for this car.

By the decade :
1920?s - 23 cars (3.3%)

1930?s - 14 cars (2%)

1940?s - 6 cars (0.8%)

1950?s - 34 cars (4.9%)

1960?s - 247 cars (35.5%)

1970?s - 158 cars (22.7%)

1980?s - 166 cars (23.9%)

1990?s - 42 cars (6%)

Totals by region :
South East North - Northern suburbs of Brisbane, and Sunshine Coast - 168 cars

South East South - Southern suburbs of Brisbane, and Gold Coast - 274 cars

Southern - West of Ipswich, Gympie to Bundaberg, and west. This region encircles the South East regions - 106 cars

Central - Gladstone to Mackay, and west - 65 cars

Northern - Bowen to Cape York, and west - 76 cars

Interstate - interstate address - 7 cars



As expected, the south of the state includes most of the population, 78.7% or 548 cars. We could be in for a very

big turnout at the Warwick Nationals!



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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 



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Totals by model :
As noted, this is impacted by the lack of description for older registrations, when this data was not collected. 135 cars
(or 19.4%) were shown as unknown model.



Other than this, the top models were :

Trans Am - 170 (24.4%)

Firebird - 130 (18.5%)

Parisienne - 88 (12.6%)

Fiero - 28 (4%)

GTO - 26 (3.7%)

Laurentian - 25 (3.6%)

Chieftan - 11 (1.6%)



All other model names had less than 10 cars recorded against them. In summary, 300 cars (43%) were from the
Firebird/ Trans Am family. During the 1967-1999 timeframe, the unknown model had 78 cars. The majority of these
would probably belong to the Firebird/ Trans Am category too. So 350 would be a likely number, around 50% of the
696 grand total.


One member's Trans Am you might not have seen before. This is Townsville member Ash Sullivan's
1973 model, recently fitted with a set of Wheel Vintiques 18" X 8" billet Rally II's


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


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PONTIAC REGISTRATIONS BY REGION AND YEAR - 6 MAY 2010
FIREBIRD & TRANS AM MODELS

S EAST S EAST
Year NORTH SOUTH SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH I'STATE TOTAL
1967 5 5 2 1 1 14
1968 7 8 1 3 2 21
1969 2 7 3 3 1 16
1970 2 2 1 1 6
1971 4 3 7
1972 1 1 1 3
1973 1 1 2 4
1974 4 4 2 2 12
1975 1 2 1 2 6
1976 3 1 1 5
1977 7 3 1 1 2 14
1978 3 9 2 6 1 21
1979 5 9 5 5 5 1 30
1980 3 1 1 1 2 8
1981 1 2 3 1 7
1982 3 7 3 1 3 17
1983 5 2 2 9
1984 4 6 2 3 15
1985 3 5 3 2 2 15
1986 1 4 1 1 2 9
1987 2 5 2 1 1 11
1988 2 5 2 1 10
1989 1 3 2 1 1 1 9
1990 1 1
1991 1 2 1 4
1992 1 1
1993 2 2
1994 1 2 3 6
1995 1 8 2 1 12
1996 2 2
1997 2 2
1999 1 1
Total 63 117 44 35 38 3 300


Then, GTO's. We know of a few not listed here, so you could add a couple more to the 25

GTO MODEL

S EAST S EAST
Year NORTH SOUTH SOUTH CENTRAL NORTH I'STATE TOTAL
1964 1 1
1965 2 2
1966 1 1 2
1967 3 2 5
1968 2 5 1 8
1969 1 1 1 3
1970 3 1 4
Total 3 13 1 1 6 1 25



New Townsville member, Keith Freeman, owns this 1966 GTO, seen recently at Kurrimine Beach
near Innisfail, where a group of Cairns members were on an annual campout.


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 



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Fiero's are around the same number
 
FIERO MODEL
S EASTS EAST
YearNORTHSOUTHSOUTH CENTRAL    NORTH    I'STATE     TOTAL
1984213
1985213
198658114
1987325
1988 21   3
Total1212202028


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 



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Then the Laurentians and Parisiennes
 
LAURENTIAN MODEL
S EASTS EAST
YearNORTHSOUTHSOUTH CENTRAL    NORTH    I'STATE     TOTAL
1959213
1960134
196111114
19621113
196334310
1967 1    1
Total511612025
 
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Member Vic Agnew's 1967 Laurentian is the only one registered of this type. Most 67's in Australia
were the Parisienne's below.
 
PARISIENNE MODEL
S EASTS EAST
YearNORTHSOUTHSOUTH CENTRAL    NORTH    I'STATE     TOTAL
19611113
1963123
1964362112
19653421414
19665731117
196753311
19686683326
19691 1   2
Total252818610188


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 

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PCCA-Q Pontiac Census
 

A total of 134 Pontiacs are now in the Queensland chapter, 117 of those registered. This represents close to

17% of the total registered population.

 

Top Models are :

 

Trans Am - 47 (35%)

Firebird - 20 (15%)

Parisienne - 23 (17%)

GTO - 10 (7.4%)

Fiero - 7 (5%)

Laurentian - 6 (4.5%)

 

The Firebird/ Trans Am family thus represents 50% of the club?s cars, which is in line with the overall population.

 

As for the total Pontiac population, 1968 is also the highest year for the club?s cars. A total of 14 cars come from

this year, followed by 9 from 1965. 53 of the cars (40%) are from the sixties decade, 40 from the seventies (30%).

 

By Region, the club car population is found in :

South East North - 30 cars

South East South - 57 cars

Southern - 15 cars

Central - 8 cars

Northern - 24 cars

 

The south of the state includes most of the club car population, 76.1% or 102 cars. This percentage is very similar

to the wider population of Pontiacs.

 

In conclusion, the 2010 Queensland Pontiac Census was a great success and will assist us in marketing the club
and preparations for the Nationals. The population of Pontiacs is probably growing, and we may conduct this census
on an annual basis to keep track of the marque.
 
Chris Malone
President
28 May 2010


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1967 Parisienne 2+2
1967 Grande Parisienne

1967 Laurentian
1967 Strato Chief


Remember, "The Government" only has money confiscated from us.

 

 



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That's a lot of great information!

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Good stuff

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Find it truely amazing that your department of motor vehicle registration will freely give out this info.
Wouldn't it be great if the Canadian provinces would do likewise?

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They would have to set up a "commission" to review the request  takes 9 years and 100 million for lunches

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yep thats the canadian buaurocratic way for sure

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