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Looking for information on a "283 Super Econoflame"


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I've found a small bit of information on the standard "283 Econoflame" but nothing for the "283 Super Econoflame"

Can someone please tell me what kind of cars they came in, the h.p. ratings, or any information about them?

At this point I'm assuming they were 283's with a 4-bbl

Thank You... in advance!
Craig



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http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/index.spark?aBID=118110&p=3&topicID=26305684

Try this link. According to my extensive research on the topic Super Econoflame was a 327 CID V8.

If you have something showing it as a 283 please e-mail to me.

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Yes... your post was how I found this site.

Thanks!


Here's the only reference I've found for the 283 "Super"

http://www.pontiacparts.net/productdetailscat.aspx?pid=680271

Product NameDecal, 283 Super Econoflame Valve Cover
Details:Tempest - GTO - LeMans, 1966, Decals & Literature
SKU:  CDT0516
Price:  $5.18
Year:1966

http://www.blaap.com/catalogue/newmanuals/2pontiaccanadiankits.html#
1966-67 283 SUPER ECONOFLAME VALVE COVER DECAL
Item # DT0516


I realize this is fairly shoddy information to go by... but everything I've found other than the one above references the "Econoflame" to the Canadian models confused.gif




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The Econoflame name was used for Acadians and Beaumonts. Your information is helpful becuase it narrows it down to 66-67 but also confusing by showing the Tempest and GTO reference confuse

I will reference 1966 and 67 sales brochures and see what comes out of that for Acadians and Beaumonts. The GTO/Tempest reference is in my opinion just plain incorrect.

1966 Acadian brochure makes no reference to 283 Super Econoflame, just a 327:

http://canadianponcho.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=118110&p=3&topicID=20512497


 



-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 02:49:19 PM

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There was apparently an optional 283 on the Chevrolet Chevelle that year... did the Canadian versions also offer a secondary 283 ?

1966 Chevelle 300 Information

  • Body Styles
    • 4 door sedan
    • 2 door sedan

 

  • Engine Options
    • 194 cubic inch 120 horsepower 6 cylinder (base)
    • 230 cubic inch 140 horsepower 6 cylinder (optional)
    • 283 cubic inch 195 horsepower V-8 (base)
    • 327 cubic inch 275 horsepower V-8 (optional)

 

1966 Chevelle 300 Deluxe Information

  • Body Styles     
    • 4 door sedan
    • 2 door sedan
    • 4 door wagon

 

  • Engine Options
    • 283 cubic inch 220 horsepower V-8 (optional)
    • 327 cubic inch 275 horsepower V-8 (optional)

 

1966 Chevelle Malibu Information

  • Body Styles                 
    • 4 door sedan
    • 4 door sport coupe
    • 2 door sport coupe
    • 2 door convertible
    • 4 door wagon

 

  • Engine Options
    • 194 cubic inch 120 horsepower 6 cylinder (base)
    • 230 cubic inch 140 horsepower 6 cylinder (optional)
    • 283 cubic inch 195 horsepower V-8 (base)
    • 283 cubic inch 220 horsepower V-8 (optional)
    • 327 cubic inch 275 horsepower V-8 (optional)



So... could you get a Beaumont Sport Deluxe with a 283 4bbl, dual exhaust, 4spd... ?



-- Edited by deckeroni on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 03:40:07 PM

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Welcome aboard Craig!.
What's started this whole exercise?.
Do you have a motor you're trying to identify?.
If so, what stamped #'s are on the forward protruding deck surface area in front of the passenger's side head?.

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Welcome aboard Craig!.
What's started this whole exercise?.
Do you have a motor you're trying to identify?.
If so, what stamped #'s are on the forward protruding deck surface area in front of the passenger's side head?.

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Seriously... I don't think you don't really want to know. 

BUT... I don't actually have this engine... I am about to do some "creative" decorating on an engine.  Initially I was going to use our standard U.S. 283 valve cover decals... then I found the "Pontiac 283" valve cover decals... then I saw the "283 Econoflame" decals.... and lastly the "283 Super Econoflame" decals are apparently so completely odd that they are going to be perfect for my little prank on all of the SBC know-it-all's in the world.  Funny thing is... now I really do want to know what they were used on originally.  nod.gif

The engine I'm building is a 283 stroker... aka... a "307".  It's going into my 1929 Model A Coupe... painted Pontiac Metallic Blue no less... lot's of high end parts and sneaky tricks under stock valve covers and painted aluminum... it should probably put out between 300-325hp.  I'm also thinking of using L79 valve covers... to really throw folks off.

Don't hate me... I'm not the one's making and selling the decals. weirdface.gif






The SD (Sport Deluxe) models were equivalent to the Chevelle Super Sport trim level, and featured bucket seats and center console, as well as SD body striping and trim. The SD396 models are the most desirable Beaumonts today. Few were built, however, and most succumbed to the harsh Canadian winter climate, which makes them significantly more rare than equivalent Chevelles and desirable to some collectors. The SD series was available in both 2-door hardtop and convertible body styles. In addition to the SD series, the Beaumont line included Custom and Deluxe lines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont_(automobile)

-- Edited by deckeroni on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 04:23:26 PM

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The 283 super econoflame was used in 1964 excusivly.

It is for the 220 HP version of the 283.
Commonly known as RPO   L77.

It was the higher horse 283 with a rochester 4GC, clutch fan, and dual exaust.

As far as i know the L77 was used in 1964 only.  and only on chevelles and beaumonts.
This was the highest HP largest engine you could get in a A-body.
Until after march of 1964, when GM made the 327 available in an A-body car for the first time

This should completly answer you question.
My main focus is on 1964 beaumonts/chevelles, and i have done lots of research on the topic.


So the 283 "super econoflame" decals were used only on L77 powered beaumonts in 1964.

-- Edited by beaumontguru on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 05:06:12 PM

-- Edited by beaumontguru on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 05:06:35 PM

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beaumontguru wrote:

The 283 super econoflame was used in 1964 excusivly.





BG is right!      look at the brochure in the library


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Wow... that was quick... and thanks for all the info!!!

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Hey BeaumontGuru, how rare would the RPO L77 be?

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I have had 2 canadian 64 wagons with the L77 option.  One chevelle and one beaumont.
So i would say that they did make some in canada, but it is probably not all that common.

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Engine name thread in Library has now been updated. Thanks !

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-- Edited by 73SC on Tuesday 29th of June 2010 10:03:34 PM

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