Ok it's not Canadian, but I need a 2 groove waterpump pulley for my GTO. The one I have is for a long pump, but in 68 they used a short pump. The part number I need is 9788886 it is a 2 groove 5 11/16" dia. and for an AC car. It is smaller than one without thus spinning the waterpump faster. Thanks for your help guys......John
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John
1972 Pontiac Lemans (daughter's car) 2005 Pontiac Grand Am 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
Thanks Carl, but I need the water pump pulley. They offer them in an 8" and smaller. I think they are approx 2 1/8" backspacing on them. The one I have now is closer to 2 3/8" thus I can only use one belt on the pump not 2.
BTW....glad to see you are back!!!!!!
-- Edited by unclebernie on Wednesday 22nd of September 2010 03:01:08 PM
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1972 Pontiac Lemans (daughter's car) 2005 Pontiac Grand Am 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
Ok, I remeasured and am I ever glad I did.......it is actually closer to 2 3/4" so I believe the 8" will work. I think they installed a 1970 pulley setup on the car when they added power steering. I think I should have just enough clearance for the pulley without changing my crank pulley...unless you happen to have a 7 5/16" crank pulley as well???? PM me with details please....... Thanks again......John
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1972 Pontiac Lemans (daughter's car) 2005 Pontiac Grand Am 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
Mine are from a 76 Firebird, the water pump pulley is the 2-5/8x8 in. double groove as noted below and have the matching double groove 7-5/16 crank pulley by 2 in deep. Not sure if would work on the short pump. Measure your pump to make sure is the short one. see below for measurments.
An interesting bit of info I found on another forum.
All of the timing chain covers from 1964 to 1979 will bolt up and interchange with any motor from those years. However, you must use the matching water pump, pulley and crank pulley to avoid alignment problems with the alternator and/or power steering pump. All of the water pumps from 64-68 will interchange. These pumps have eight bolts and measure 3-5/8 long (from base to water pump pulley flange). The casting number for 64-65 is 9772716 and for 66-68 it is 4782482. The matching pulleys are 2 in height. From 64-67 Pontiac used a small diameter (5.25) six bolt two-piece harmonic damper and from 68-79 a large diameter (6.75), one piece four bolt damper was used. In 69 Pontiac changed to an 11-bolt water pump but the early 69 was different from late 69-on. Many early 69 Firebirds and GTO's used a pump that measured 4 long (casting# 9796351) and the pulley was 2-1/4 in height. From late 69 to 79 only one pump style was used, it measured 4-1/2 long and there are at least two different casting numbers used: 482138 and 488296. The matching pulley should measure 2-5/8 in height. Always use the correct diameter and style crank pulley to match the water pump pulley and also use the same series timing chain cover and balancer to properly line up your timing marks. The same timing chain cover was used for both 64 & 65 and had just a simple pointer. These were cast with number 9773371. The timing cover used on 66 and 67 employed a small timing scale marked -4, 0, and +6 and is otherwise identified as casting # 9783130. The 68, 69 and 70 timing covers look very similar with timing marks of 0-6-12 degrees BTDC and accommodated the large diameter damper. The 68 timing cover casting number is 9790347 and uses the 8-bolt water pump. The 69-70 timing cover casting number is 9796346 and uses the improved 11-bolt pump. For 71 and later the timing cover timing tab is marked from 4 degrees after to 12 degrees BTDC and is graduated all the way to 16 degrees BTDC. As compression ratios were lowered to 8:1 and lower there became a need for increased initial advance. Casting number for this cover is 482883. If you need to order a water pump the Federal Mogul part numbers are: 64-68 is FP1388N, early 69 is FP1409N and late 69-on is FP1423.
-- Edited by Beaumont4008 on Thursday 23rd of September 2010 12:13:39 AM
Thanks for the info!!!! Unfortunately your pulley's won't work on mine then....I have the 8 bolt short pump. I found a company that manufacture's the pulley's I am looking for. They are CVF Racing.... http://www.cvfracing.com/pontiac-pulleys
Thanks again for the info......John
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1972 Pontiac Lemans (daughter's car) 2005 Pontiac Grand Am 2004 Ford Explorer Sport Trac
Thanks for the info!!!! Unfortunately your pulley's won't work on mine then....I have the 8 bolt short pump. I found a company that manufacture's the pulley's I am looking for. They are CVF Racing.... http://www.cvfracing.com/pontiac-pulleys
Thanks again for the info......John
Wow !! those look like some nice pulleys. Should spruce up the engine with those.