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RE: 1966 Pontiac Grande Parisienne -427 engine looking for the original car


That is SO cool guys!!!

Glad to see it. As much as I would have loved to buy the engine, GLAD to see it!!!

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Some 60's Suffixes had the extra digit at the end of the Suffix to represent the carb..
If so in this case the 'IJR' would be the IJ Suffix which is correct for the L36 if an auto trans and the R to indicate a Rochester carb, not a H for Holley as some applications had..

Back my last posting, did the guy know where the engine was all along as the old thread on the red car notes the location of the original engine was known?.
Either way, great they're getting back together!.

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-- Edited by Ghost Post on Friday 5th of November 2010 03:38:44 PM

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Pete the owner had this engine in his 68 Acadian for awhile and then put in a big cube rat. This one is sitting all apart but it sounds like in good shape. The block is .020 over. I checked the dates on the heads and intake and it appears the block, intake and heads were all built within 10 days or so. I will post all that later. Is it month, day on the eng no ?, I think the dates were all Jan 20-26 on the castings so it would make sense if they stamped the block in Feb . Thanks for the clarification on the IJR coding as the R doesnt show up in the Chevrolet by the numbers book. One of my engines, a 66 396 engine is an IAR as well and it was out of a 66 GP as well.

This car was up in Fort McMurray for awhile and then Steven bought it in Banf. Now it resides in Stettler, Ab and Steven plans to be the last owner.( it maybe the only 66 427 GP left ??)

The owner did not know where the engine was but he did have a fellow say to him at a show n shine in Banf that he knew the guy with the original engine but it would never be for sale and he would not give him his contact info. Would that make you mad or what !

-- Edited by Elroy on Friday 5th of November 2010 03:18:59 PM

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They are getting back together ... love is in the air! date.gif
This is great news!

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Pontiacanada wrote:

They are getting back together ... love is in the air! date.gif
This is great news!



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Hey Brent thanks for doing this. TOO COOL !  it so neat to see guys in this for the sport and not the money. You made it clear you  are not going to hold Steven ransom for this engine even though you know you could, or upsell it to some Corvette guy.
I want to talk some more on those heads too...

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TOO COOL! GREAT WORK GUYS.

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Elroy,
Yes casting is month-day-year..
Cool you have the IA-R engine, L35 stick!.

Again great this CP L36 engine has found it's way home!.
Maybe the time's come where this site gets an Orphan parts section!.
Some sites have this and often a great story to read!.
I was reading about a few 302 Chevy's finding their way home recently, one an MO '67 motor also a '69 DZ a few months ago that was in a T-bucket found its car still alive!.

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thats great ,glad to see it going back together ,great site we have here eh!.

and thanks to Elroy for sending in the info he found,

do you know which dealer sold this car originally Elroy,id like to add it to the registry

-- Edited by 68sd on Friday 5th of November 2010 04:56:17 PM

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feb 10th 1966 engine
march 23 car build


looks correct as big blocks usually were backdated 1- 2 months

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This is awesome!  Given the rarity of this combo I hope he puts all orginal fittings on the engine like aircleaner etc.  If he need bits and pieces I'm sure this forum will help him out. 

Yeah What 57 Poncho just said below too. 

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Friday 5th of November 2010 06:35:14 PM

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Great ending to a awesome story. Brent my hat goes off to you it is great to see there is still guys that aren't in it just for the money.smile

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It was I that spotted the car at the Radium Car Show about 4 or 5 years ago, and spoke with Steve.  I indicated a buddy had a motor for one of those cars, and as we continued to talk I realized this was the same car (the connection was that the guy Brent sold the car to had taken it to Fort McMurray, and Steve said the car came from Fort McMurray). 

Steve had the GM documentation on the windshield, and I recorded the engine stamping and Steve's phone # - he lived in Banff at the time.  A few months later I verified the engine stamping against the block, and yes they matched.    I've been after Brent to sell me the motor for the past 20 years, and he's always said he wouldn't sell.  That's why I indicated to Steve the owner wouldn't part with the block.

Finally last weekend Brent indicated he was interested in selling, and we did an inventory of what all was there (and you betcha, I was interested).  I'm glad he decided to seek out the original car.

Oddly enough, when I was speaking to one of the organizers of the POCI Dayton show a couple years ago (they wanted to feature Canadian Pontiac's), he indicated he was in Banff a few years prior, and spotted a red 66 Grande Parisienne from a distance.  He said he wondered if it was a big block car, but didn't get a chance to check it out.  I told him it was likely the car in Steve's posession, and that it was originally a 390 hp 427 - he couldn't believe it!!!!

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I would say we do this to you for doing this and to Todd for bringing us together and preserving what are some of the most uniquely Canadian vehicles made.   worship.gifworship.gif

Thank you Clint and Todd!

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Friday 5th of November 2010 08:48:47 PM

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Sure would be good to get to see the sheet on this car from George Z.  Might fill a few more gaps in our knowledge.

Now if we could find an 425 horse car!

(Never mind, I just looked at the production numbers thread, it's already there)

-- Edited by 66 Grande guy on Friday 5th of November 2010 09:24:14 PM

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66 Grande guy wrote:


Now if we could find a 425 horse car!



NO kidding!


That would be so cool...

 



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All I need to see is one, just to know the holy grail exists!

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69 Chevy CST pickup

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Plus one! I'd love to have to wipe drool off my chin just to be able to say I saw a real one.

Years ago a fellow I know claims there was a factory worker in Winnipeg at the Versatile plant driving a 66 Grande Parisienne 4 door hardtop factory 4 speed car! I was never able to confirm that one though.

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sorry guys I will post the build sheet Monday, I couldn't get it done today. It was sold in Sask, Balsa Motors or something like that ??

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Elroy wrote:
 It was sold in Sask, Balsa Motors or something like that ??


  It seems to me I should have come to Saskatchewan 10-15 before I did!! Lots of highly optioned cars to be had then.... But, alas, I would need an acreage like Cheviac........... Which would be a great thing!!!



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Ok Elroy
You know what to do, let's look up some numbers and see what we can find for parts for that beast, i'm excited.
Gerry

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OK Jerry, I will bring the build sheet in and we'll have a pow wow there buddy ! That looks like a real cool grampa picture there on your profile pic ....

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heres the build sheet finally

 

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 Still small though... Can you send a bigger one?


 And I just noticed......... Another Saskie car!! Some of the service manuals I just picked up has Bast Motors on them... Interesting!



-- Edited by 67Poncho on Monday 8th of November 2010 12:01:50 PM

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