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4SPEED427


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The other night I made the statement that no Canadian Poncho's (all the cars catered to on this site) ever were built with a 3 speed overdrive manual trans.

Tonight while scouring parts books for difficult trivia questions (yes, I'm a bit weird that way) I believe I found an exception.

Ok, thinking 65-68 Canadian Poncho here (cars catered to by this site), what was the exception to the rule? What could be had with a 3 speed manual overdrive?

There's at least 2 or 3 guys here that I expect to get this one. Most won't is my guess.

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 30th of November 2010 10:21:14 PM

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3-speed manual transmission w/overdrive [RPO M10]

 



-- Edited by 427carl on Tuesday 30th of November 2010 09:08:37 PM

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RPODESCRIPTIONMODELSPRICE
L30327 cubic inch V8 Engine, 250 horsepowerAll$133.85
L74327 cubic inch V8 Engine, 300 horsepowerAll$194.65
L33409 cubic inch V8 Engine, 340 horsepowerAll$342.10
L31409 cubic inch V8 Engine, 400 horsepower ( add M20 only )All$453.10
L80Two X 4 barrel option ( 425 HP ) incudes L31All$532.25
M35Aluminum Powergilde automatic transmission / 6 cylinder engineAll$262.85
M35Aluminum Powerglide automatic transmission / V8 engineAll$277.85
M20All aluminum Muncie full syncromesh 4 speed / W/L30 no tachAll W/L30$262.85
M20All aluminum Muncie full syncromesh 4 speed / with tachometerAll W/V8$330.45
M21All aluminum Muncie full sync. 4 speed, close ratio / L31/L80 onlyAll$330.45
M103 speed syncromesh with overdrive6cyl & 283$150.20
P1214X6" wheels ( std. on Station Wagon ) 800X14 tires requiredAll$7.60
G80Positraction rear axle / all gear ratiosAll$60.85
G96optional gear ratio... 3.08, 3.36, 3.55, 3.70, 4.11, 4.56All$3.05




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Are you trying to say that if you got a 6 or a 283 you could order overdrive?

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 30th of November 2010 09:15:25 PM

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I could only verify a Chevelle hmm  which might have been like Beaumont wink   the list was posted by Fred

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Mmmm, sort of............

I need a much more specific answer. It wasn't as simple as walking in to the Beaumont dealer and ordering overdrive.

And yes, in a US Chevelle, readily available.

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Tuesday 30th of November 2010 09:24:09 PM

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I don't think the overdrive would stand up to any "Performance" driving, that is why is was limited to the six and the 283. I'm personally surprised that lots of economy minded folks didn't go for it, back in the day.

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It actually is not that difficult to find in US wrecking yards that have lots of 60's GM's. Neat setup.

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My friend with a 55 has 3 spd manual with overdrive

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67rag396 wrote:

My friend with a 55 has 3 spd manual with overdrive


This was going to be my answer.
We need Taylor55 to chime in.

 



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Hmm.

I wasn't thinking that far back. I am not sure on those.

Let me check the books and get back to you. I was thinking in the 60's but I better get the exact years. As a matter of fact, I think it was available in the earlier CP cars, you are correct.

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The parts book likes 65 to 68.

I will reword the question at the top to read "65 to 68".

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67rag396 wrote:

My friend with a 55 has 3 spd manual with overdrive


Yes, the Canadian Poncho parts book says 55-56 Pontiac has overdrive.

 



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As stated in the "tilt" thread, here's a good clue.

What did it take to get overdrive in an Oshawa built 65-68 car that is catered to by this site?

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Think outside of the box........

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Calgary Members
This 1965 Pontiac Parisienne Custom Sport was bought by my wife's ... ordered
with the 265 cubic inch V8 and a 3 speed manual transmission with overdrive. ...
ironindians.ab.ca/members.htm -


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Where did you find that?

That has to be a misprint. No 265 for 1965.

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Fred, where are you?

I was sure you'd be all over this one....

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Focus on OSHAWA BUILT.....

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Fred got the answer in the other thread about tilt.

The car was built in Oshawa but had to be built for export. Seems strange but that's the way it is according to the book.

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