Another Non-repairable (Joke) compliments of our government insurance

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Another Non-repairable (Joke) compliments of our government insurance

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Make sure we do our best to squash the small remaining group of kids who still are true North American car enthusiasts. Eventually there will be nothing left for them and they will HAVE to find another hobby or become part of the tuner crowd.

Those of you who know me well hopefully would say I'm not usually very negative but this just irks me every time I see a new one like this coming up for sale, with NO hope of being repaired.

And it's even a 5 speed....

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

Seeing a car like that, it is only a matter of time before someone finds a good VIN and does a transfer. This seems to me to be a government program to promote criminal activity.

Howmac · Guru

The majority of Manitobans are not even aware of this new policy.

When you allow the government with their "going green" mandate and their ability to run both the insurance , and police ( crackdown on cruisin) .... our older classic cars are doomed.

The used parts , and the used vehicle markets have plummeted.

" So much for re-cycling "..... I wonder what the carbon footprint is from the production of a new car compared to keeping a restored classic on the road.

Just venting as well

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

73SC wrote:

Seeing a car like that, it is only a matter of time before someone finds a good VIN and does a transfer. This seems to me to be a government program to promote criminal activity.

Absolutely!

tc · Guru

UNREPAIRABLE ?????? That's just WRONG ????!!!!!!!

JetFan · Guru

Howmac wrote:

...When you allow the government with their "going green" mandate and their ability to run both the insurance , and police ( crackdown on cruisin) .... our older classic cars are doomed...

" So much for re-cycling ".....

If they have their way, we'll all wind up back on horseback, shovelling ****. But then horse poop in the wrong hands becomes a pollutant too...so maybe rickshaws???????

Laurentian · Addicted!

I know this may sound as a shock but I could show pics of a 95 t/a with 144k on it ten years ago that looked just like this one but was so rusty from the inside I failed it at 9 pm on a gravel driveway (unofficially). My hand went through the floor boards not to mention all the other attrocities that were done to the car. Looked great though on the outside!

When the owner signs the car over to MPI or any other insurance agency. They are the new owner and they can do with THEIR car what ever they please. Be lucky they are selling for parts and not just instantly crushing them. There are also many other restorable classics on here for sale that were quickly labelled "parts car" and it seemed noone had a problem with that. Maybe the joke is more like "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or "One man's junk is another man's treasure"

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

I don't know. Looks pretty bad. If they would only allow it to go back on the road, do you think it could be saved

I must have gone to sleep or just missed the story... Its non-repairable because of the fender?

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Yes, the fender damage makes it enough to be a write off since repairs are estimated using new parts prices.

In about 1982, my 67 Grande Parisienne 396 wagon was hit in left rear door. No other damage. The car was a write off. However, I negotiated with the insurance company and found someone who would do a contract price for the repair.

On a car like this, if I were the owner I would have done the same even if I no longer wanted the car. The owner is the only one who can keep it on the road by negotiating a contract repair price. Get it fixed and then sell it rather than let it become a junker.

tin indian · Poncho Master!

you guys from manitoba really need to put your foot down on this issue. hopefully you can stop it before it spreads like a bad disese. you guys got to take a stand, and do something, that will be heard.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

If I remember correctly, before this came in there was some efforts made but to no avail.

tin indian · Poncho Master!

the carbon footprint, and recycling issues should be part of your fight. make your voices loud, like radio stations, and public car shows, pettitions ect.

Laurentian · Addicted!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

Yes, the fender damage makes it enough to be a write off since repairs are estimated using new parts prices.

In about 1982, my 67 Grande Parisienne 396 wagon was hit in left rear door. No other damage. The car was a write off. However, I negotiated with the insurance company and found someone who would do a contract price for the repair.

On a car like this, if I were the owner I would have done the same even if I no longer wanted the car. The owner is the only one who can keep it on the road by negotiating a contract repair price. Get it fixed and then sell it rather than let it become a junker.

Maybe the owner knows something about the car that they were glad to get rid of the it. eg. engine or tranny shot

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

That may well be. However, the next guy may not (and in this case I'm sure many WILL NOT) see this car as junk, and see value in keeping it alive.

Laurentian · Addicted!

tin indian wrote:

the carbon footprint, and recycling issues should be part of your fight. make your voices loud, like radio stations, and public car shows, pettitions ect.

Your right, it is all we can do to preserve what some of us see as viable. All too often these rules come from persons who do anything to "get around the system". Instead of dealing with the frustration of each vehicle individually they make a new rule. Imagine some of the other notions that were ruled out or are still on the table?

rabbit64cs · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

we're buying 99 and newer chevy trucks with LS engines for less than $2000 from our government insurance.... but at least they can be re licensed after a structural and mechanical inspection.

When I was visiting in BC , my cousin's neighbour was bringing home a car/ truck every 2 nd day. He worked at dealership, and he was buying the cash for clunkers from the lot, the VIN was marked for 'crush' . He was stripping the good stuff off and taking them in for scrap ..REGARDLESS of their condition..like the rust free 85 chevy 1/2 ton with new tires and rallies....
made me SICK....

now that's thinking green!!!

Laurentian · Addicted!

Carl Stevenson wrote:

That may well be. However, the next guy may not (and in this case I'm sure many WILL NOT) see this car as junk, and see value in keeping it alive.

Use it for parts to fix another "clear vin" vehicle. It is "parts only" all across Canada now. How many good vin cars can be saved by parting this one and not have to go through an inspection process? I have saved up to four total loss vehicles without using the power train (#5?) by parting a fixable total loss vehicle. It is sad about this one in particular but we can't save them all.

rabbit64cs · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Howmac wrote:

The majority of Manitobans are not even aware of this new policy.

When you allow the government with their "going green" mandate and their ability to run both the insurance , and police ( crackdown on cruisin) .... our older classic cars are doomed.

The used parts , and the used vehicle markets have plummeted.

" So much for re-cycling "..... I wonder what the carbon footprint is from the production of a new car compared to keeping a restored classic on the road.

Just venting as well

David Freiburger , editor of HOT ROD did an article years ago about that very topic, In California , they were trying to take EVERYTHING 10 years old off the road, He was driving a well tuned 6 cyl. dodge duster? good article ,, maybe I can dig it up. The carbon tax , so to speak had been paid up on his car VS a new car that would take 7 years to pay up.. so it was like a freebie to drive his old car,,politicians didn't see it that way.

my numbers are wrong , but that was the jest of it!

87 player bird · Poncho Master!

I need that car! too bad so far away.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

So   what happens if you buy it ? Can you fix it and drive it?

That brings up another question regarding Western Licencing...

Here in Ont, I can buy it, and put it in my name "Unfit and Unplated"
I have to have a dealer put a price on it for tax.... I have to pay the tax..13%

Then I can have it certified (solid body suspension exhaust tires etc..) Then I can have it changed to Fit -Unplated

and when I have insurance It can be registered Fit-Plated and away we go

I have another question regarding "non fit" "project" old classic cars. I'll ask it on another post...

Laurentian · Addicted!

A "parts only" car is parts only, never to be on the road again anywhere. It almost takes an act of a higher power to get that flag removed.

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

427carl wrote:

So   what happens if you buy it ? Can you fix it and drive it?

That brings up another question regarding Western Licencing...

Here in Ont, I can buy it, and put it in my name "Unfit and Unplated"
I have to have a dealer put a price on it for tax.... I have to pay the tax..13%

Then I can have it certified (solid body suspension exhaust tires etc..) Then I can have it changed to Fit -Unplated

and when I have insurance It can be registered Fit-Plated and away we go

I have another question regarding "non fit" "project" old classic cars. I'll ask it on another post...

No such thing here. Dead is dead. I thought it was that way everywhere.

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Are you saying your 67 Nova is considered dead? can you get it in your name

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

No no, it has a perfectly clear title. It's not an accident car. Easy as pie to import that one.