66 Grande Parisienne 4dr information?

way2tall · Veteran Member

66 Grande Parisienne 4dr information?

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

Welcome !

I'm sure we can give you some production numbers

If the 454 runs well it probably doubles the vale of the car

67Poncho · Uber Guru

Welcome aboard, Carl! (Oh no, now there are 3!!) We have another Carl that just bought a 2 dr Grande and I am sure he will pipe in as soon as he sees this thread!

You can post a pic of your trim tag for the experts here to decode... As for numbers.......

76639-Grande Parisienne 8 cyl 4 door hardtop (1200 produced)

-- Edited by 67Poncho on Saturday 10th of December 2011 04:27:51 PM

way2tall · Veteran Member

Apparently I picked a Carl's Car :)

The 454 4-bolt runs great, but I haven't dared push it yet as I don't know if they mated it to the original tranny, and I don't want to break anything in it's first few days... It's at a local rod shop right now getting checked up and tuned.

As I can't afford a paint job on it right yet, I was thinking of keeping it gravel-guarded for now and giving it a Punisher theme, and next winter working on the body...

I'll get the numbers off the tag as soon as I get it back, or I can post the VIN if that can help...

67Poncho · Uber Guru

way2tall wrote:

I'll get the numbers off the tag as soon as I get it back, or I can post the VIN if that can help...

The tag will be fine! (just above the brake booster) We try and encourage that your vin remains anonomous, or partial!

way2tall · Veteran Member

So by having a 454 in it, I double the value of the car as opposed to having it original?

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Welcome Carl from PEI! Post pics, we like cars in any shape! The Punisher huh ... gotta love that ... my 2nd. favorite comic book character! My first being

way2tall · Veteran Member

PEI! We drove through there in Sept 2010 on our honeymoon roadtrip (yes, "honeymoon roadtrip" - I'm a very lucky man)... We are actually planning to move there when the kids are gone (since we don't have any yet, it's still a ways off though...) - exceedingly beautiful place!

I'll post better pics when I get it back, right now all I have is a very VERY horrible cellphone pic I took when I brought it home on Wednesday - here it is:

-- Edited by way2tall on Saturday 10th of December 2011 06:35:11 PM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

WELCOME HERE!!!!!

Great to see another 66 Grande Parisienne, and a "Carl" to boot! Can it get any better???

Yes, we will anxiously await good pictures. Do NOT worry about the paint quality. This group of guys will embrace your car, be it a project or a show car.

And there is a bit of 66 Grande Parisienne experience here too....... wink

Ok 66 Grande Guy (Ken), where are you???!!!

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

It looks Punisher-like!

1048163?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1324512000&Signature=%2BBZO8MvaCjniDsO%2FmtsaBi3R1qM%3D

-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Saturday 10th of December 2011 07:13:12 PM

way2tall · Veteran Member

Very glad to be here :)

way2tall · Veteran Member

And just in case anyone's curious about the 3rd car in my sig (the shortened Mini), it's here:

(Yes, it probably fits in the GP's trunk!)

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

way2tall wrote:
So by having a 454 in it, I double the value of the car as opposed to having it original?

That was my opinion and is only worth 1 vote biggrin

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Howdy guys sorry not to be on top of this one but I was at the old folks visiting my dad (and gettiing cleaned at 8 ball by the way)

Welcome to the new guy with the groovy Grande! The first thing to do is to gently take the Grande emblems off the car if they are in one peice and send them to me. They reduce the value of the car tremendously if they are on there and I'm willing to take them from even though they are really worth nothiing at all.

OK OK I can't keep it up. We love those cars and the Grande emblems are very hard to hard find in one piece so count yourself lucky if you have all three. I've been lookin for years.

You probably have the most elegant looking car ever made by Pontiac in my opinion. I have always fantasized about adding one to my collection (of one 2 door hardtop) and almost bought one this spring. (They only made two body styles as Grandes in 66)

To me if you want a car you can live with for any distance and to make a totally practical and rare highway car that you would never see another of on the road, stick in a fuel injected 350 with a 700 r4 and convert the brakes to front discs. The rest of the car is great as it is.

That would be a car you could drive across Canada dependably, get decent mileage and more than keep up with the traffic.

I magine if the window seals are shot that it would be tricky to fix that and annoyiing to live the but the rest of the car is very straightforward to work on

Great acquisition!

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

66 Grande guy wrote:

That would be a car you could drive across Canada dependably, get decent mileage and more than keep up with the traffic.

However,if you drive it across Canada and pass through Manitoba, beware, as the "Grande" emblems may go missing if you are south of Winnipeg!!

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Sunday 11th of December 2011 12:28:36 AM

66 Grande guy · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

You too huh? Its amazing what it will finally take to tempt an honest man!

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Thanks to a kind CP'er, I have one complete Grande and one two piece Grande. The two piece one contains enough letters with some overlap for me to make a second complete one. My trunk emblem is good.

Do you have any idea how many "Grande" emblems passed through my hands? I never had a broken one on either one of my cars in the 80's from what I recall. Never knew to save them...

73SC · A Poncho Legend!

We saw that car for sale in Quebec a little while a go. I thought it was a pretty decent car and the 454 was well done and in my opinion made the car. I can't imagine going back to the 283 after having a big block. 427's were optional in youir car. I'd badge it as a Pontiac 427 Jet Flame 425 HP.

Jet Flames 427.jpg

-- Edited by 73SC on Sunday 11th of December 2011 11:11:19 AM

way2tall · Veteran Member

Yep, it's the same car that was on Kijiji. The guy has pictures of himself and his dad with the car when it was new, so I (believe that I) am the 3rd owner, but I would have to pull a history on the car to be absolutely sure.

I didn't actually buy the car - I had a '98 Grand Cherokee with a lift that my friend really really wanted and I wasn't using, so he traded me a '01 Durango R/T with a rough body (and some cash) for it, and I traded that straight across for the GP. So I technically got the car in exchange for a truck that I *might* have been able to get ~3 grand for (after putting on a grand of bodywork, that is). Not a bad deal, I believe...

Of course the 454 needed serious adjusting (when I start it warm, it runs like a Massey Furguson, but cold it runs like a charm, etc), and we found out after I got it home that the front wheel assembly (table?) was barely attached to the car (he forgot to put the screws back into the pin: that's what the rod shop told me, I'm still learning about mechanics, but I have a feeling that screws missing on a part that holds half the front end onto the car is not good). Keep in mind that the trip home included about 15 km of highway, with a brief pause for Rousillon's Finest (If you saw a matte-black GP driving down the street with no plate on it, you'd pull it over too - I know I would)

I still have to go back to see the guy to get the rest of the trim and badges and whatnot. He tells me he has all of them, and that they are all in good condition. This is the same guy that gravel-guarded the grille and the bezels, so I'm not going to hold my breath too deeply... But when I finally repaint the car and put the badges on, I'll make sure to glue them on and hide GPS trackers in them in case you guys decide to do a midnight run at my house :)

As for badging it as a 427 - I might just do that! I do want to change the carb, as this thing came out of a Winnebago and has the smallest air filter I've ever seen this side of a 3-cyl Sprint... I'll go poke at the tech forum once I'm ready and have a better idea of exactly what I have (numbers, etc)

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Do NOT be scared to ask questions when the time comes. I don't think I've ever seen anyone get mocked here for asking a question that may seem obvious to someone here but is not a simple thing to you.

way2tall · Veteran Member

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANADIAN-PONTIAC-MASTER-PART-CATALOG-65-73-Dec-72-print-/370561274579?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item56472c52d3#ht_1499wt_1037

Don't know if I'm in the right place - but someone here must want this :) If I was more mechanically inclined, I would get it myself...

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

If anyone wants one of those, I have an original for sale like that. It looks used but still serves the purpose and it would be a lot cheaper.

Carl, those are actually pretty useful. You don't necessarily have to be on the mechanical side to make use of a book like that. Lots of good info in them about your car that is pretty easy to understand.

The service manual may be a different story. Some of what's in them is made for more serious technicians.

way2tall · Veteran Member

Well what interests me the most is what parts on the GP come from what other cars... From what I gather, the Grande Parisienne is an amalgam of parts from different Pontiacs (and Chevy for the frame I believe), along with a few exclusive bits, which all added up together make the GP we know and love. But, will the bezel from a GTO fit? what about the hood? What other car uses the same taillights? etc etc... That's the biggest reason I would want one of those, but at $180, it's a bit steep for my budget currently, as I want to put as much as possible directly into making the GP purr at the moment...

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

If you would undo all the body bolts and lift it off the frame, what would be left sitting on the ground is an Impala chassis. Whenever you need any chassis parts, ask for Impala. Many of the manufacturers do not recognize the Canadian Pontiacs in their listings.

As far as body parts, I can't think of anything from a GTO that will interchange as far as major components. Little nuts, bolts, clips etc maybe but nothing cosmetic.

way2tall · Veteran Member

...and by GTO I meant Grand Prix

*gets another coffee*