I am getting ready to stop down my 67, I have been researching the best chemical stripper to use and then prep the metal as it will not be painted untill it is completely stripped. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the off topic.
I have manufactured flags (textiles) for the majority of my working life.
I own a spectrometer when read it gives a multiple of values or formulas as such.
A) Pantone coated
B) Pantone non coated
C) XyY
D) XyK
C and D being the most stringent of values ie: magenta, black, yellow chromaticities.
If the values of the old are available, there must be a method to convert. A small handheld unit sells for under $500.00
I would suspect any original paint charts and formulas could be worked backwards.
These formulas as well take into account fading conditions.
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-- Edited by Janton on Saturday 21st of April 2012 02:02:43 AM
With the recent switch over to more environmentally friendly paints how does one get the correct colour when painting their car?
I have the paint chips from back in the year of the car so have the old mix formula for the correct colour. But any paint stores I've talk to say they can't relate the old formulas to the new paints. Also do not have a section of the car, gas door etc, to take the shade from.
How does one ensure their new paint job comes out the correct colour?
I realize that the shine may be a bit better with the modern paints but I'm more concerned with getting the shade correct.
Is there anywhere that still sells the older paints that can be mixed from the old formulas?
I just had my 67 in yesterday to get a price on getting just the front header and extentions painted as they're pretty rough looking. The shop owner says he can match my Deepwater Blue code exactly, no trouble. however he must now use a waterborn base clear system because of the metallic in the paint. Had it been a staight colour, it could be done in single stage waterborn. So this is a very good shop in Burlington that does very high end specialty work as well as classics and he says no trouble to match. Probably more trouble for a DIY job. And just as a sidenote, he says I'd be looking at 8K to paint the entire car to match, about 4K for a staight colour in single stage. The header and extentions will be $400.
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PPG has a wicked good database for older colors. Just find a good code off this site. paint shops should be able to talk to the PPG hotline in atlanta to find a formula for the new waterbone paints.
I just resently did my 67 deepwater blue, a 62 laurel green and a 57 colonial cream. All the formulas came up in waterborn or a compliant solvent based. No problem at all. Some are tricky, but all in all, it really is no problem to convert any formula to a current paint line.
This site is great, look for hte PPG/Ditzler code and also hte WA #, either of those will work for a paint shop.
By the way, those 3 colors i mentioned above are a perfect match even in water. PPG envirobase is awesome for waterbone paint. PPG omni 2.8 is not bad for a compliant solvent, but if you can find a paint supplier that mixs PPG delfleet, it is a great enamel that can still be bought for comercial painting such as Airplanes, Comercial painting has not gone to compliant Low VOC yet. so its all still avail. Dupont makes Imron, but its super expencive. PPG Delfleet is the equvalent and way cheaper.
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MY BEAUMONT HAS 4 STUDDED TIRES AND 2 BLOCKHEATERS......AND LOTS OF OIL UNDERNEATH. The other one has a longer roof.
That's a tough one these days. Most of the new water born paint lines do not have formulas for older paint codes. Best bet would be to bring the car, or part of it to scan it with a color gun. Unfortunatly if you dont hace a part with the color your gonna have a tough time.
I'm a car painter by trade...PM me your paint code and i'll see if I can come up with anything. Might get lucky...
You can still get low voc base coats that arnt water born. You must be refering to OMNI PPG's lower line. Premium paints used in any half decent body shop are water bassed.
Yes you can probably get older colors in OMNI but not sure how good the color match will be.
Hi Paul Car is a 60 Chev Impala Main body is Canadian code R = Fawn Beige = Dupont DU633 - US code is 938 = Fawn Beige Side spear is Canadian code S = Suntan Copper Metallic DUM644 - US code is 920 = Suntan Copper Thanks, Ted
Hi Beaumont Guru I'm going to Carlisle this week so will search out a set of PPG paint chips. Then perhaps I'll be able to supply the original PPG numbers for Atlanta. Thanks, Ted
im not knocking water based i actally prefer it for coverage in some translucent paints but its not always appropriate and omni is one of the lines the quality is as good as always from ppg