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Started my manual trans conversion 66 Grande Parisienne


I won't get very far on it in the next while I am guessing, but got a bit of a start on it recently. A while back I pulled out the buckets, auto shifter and console.

Tonight, I pulled out the carpet, then ground down the welds for the auto hump and removed it.
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I was looking at the automatic pedal...........
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I was going to quit for the night then but the itch to install the pedals was too strong to resist!
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And then the "Biscayne" style pedal pads looked too plain for a GP! (I have the fancy ones thanks to a CP member who GAVE them to me!)
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If anyone has a factory 4 speed hump still in the car, can I get a measurement please? I'd like to know how far from the back of the opening in the 4 speed hump back to the seat belt bolt on the tunnel. That will help me locate the hump. I have an old rusty one to work with right now. I will either have to repair it or buy a repro I think.
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-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Sunday 14th of October 2012 06:55:03 PM

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That's nice progress Carl, does that car ever look solid.



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It's decent Ray but not perfect. The seller was selling it for an estate (family member) and claimed the mileage is actually 82,000, not 182,000 but I'm not so sure about that. However, frame appears fine and that's a great start!

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Good stuff Carl. Fix that hole in the floor.



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Carl came back from his vacation full of P--- and Vinegar ! smile



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Actually, Joel (62Beaumont) is partly to blame. I got inspired the other night when I saw he is back at it on his car and I didn't want to be left behind!

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what trans and shifter are you going to run ?  I don't recall??



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Wide ratio Muncie with the stock bench seat shifter. I love that look!

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Appears that some oil leaks might have helped save the floor. Nice progress. Now where is the 427?

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   Here are a few from a 67 Parisienne. Maybe these will help.



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Appears that some oil leaks might have helped save the floor. Nice progress. Now where is the 427?





Oh yeah, I always love seeing that on an old car. Much better for the floors!

The 427 may get an overhaul first. The previous owner (who parted out a Canadian Pontiac 4 door to get it, by the way.....) may have been a bit hard on it I suspect. I'm thinking I'll freshen it up before it goes in.

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 Carl Stevenson wrote:

Would someone who owns a factory manual trans 65-66 B body be willing to look at the z bar and tell me if it sits flat (horizontal) and also if it runs pretty much perpendicular to the block or at an angle? I'd like to make sure I get the tab welded on the frame in the correct spot.

Thanks in advance.


 Carl, it will only fit in one place on the frame as there is a recess in the frame for the shaft to go over it..... Just under the rag joint for the steering box!

 '66 Caprice....

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-- Edited by 67Poncho on Friday 5th of October 2012 12:28:53 PM

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Perfect, thanks to both of you. That should help a bunch. I have no idea what the tool was that I found to hold the bracket in place for me to weld it on, but it sure worked great! DSCF1006.JPG

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Wednesday 31st of October 2012 08:49:21 PM

-- Edited by Carl Stevenson on Wednesday 31st of October 2012 08:50:38 PM

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Great project Carl. New clutch peddle pads really make the conversion cool. 4sps rule. What rear gears are u planning on using?
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I'll leave it as is. It came with a 3.31 12 bolt, which also happens to be the factory gear on 4 speed cars. I had the same gear in my former 427 4 speed GP and liked it. Decent all around gear if you are noit going to have any sort of overdrive. The mileage and RPM's are all bearable.

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

I was going to quit for the night then but the itch to install the pedals was too strong to resist!
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 Hey, don't forget about the CP person who pulled a complete pedal setup with brackets and bump stop and sent it prepaid free to you!! Boy, it is sure hard to get a glimpse of recognition around here lately!

 Are you going to remove them again for paint?



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3.31s are a great city/hiway gear



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I think he did mention it:
"And then the "Biscayne" style pedal pads looked to plain for a GP! (I have the fancy ones thanks to a CP member who GAVE them to me!)"

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Carl Stevenson wrote:

I was going to quit for the night then but the itch to install the pedals was too strong to resist!
DSCF1005.JPG


 Hey, don't forget about the CP person who pulled a complete pedal setup with brackets and bump stop and sent it prepaid free to you!! Boy, it is sure hard to get a glimpse of recognition around here lately!

 Are you going to remove them again for paint?


 



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What happened was, I was away at the lake and when I came home there was a big box waiting for me with the pedal and linkage kit complete down to every last clip, and no invoice attached! It was from Vince and his only request was that I make a donation to Canadian Poncho, which of course, I did!



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Canadian Poncho wrote:
I think he did mention it:
"And then the "Biscayne" style pedal pads looked to plain for a GP! (I have the fancy ones thanks to a CP member who GAVE them to me!)"

67Poncho wrote:

Carl Stevenson wrote:

I was going to quit for the night then but the itch to install the pedals was too strong to resist!
DSCF1005.JPG


 Hey, don't forget about the CP person who pulled a complete pedal setup with brackets and bump stop and sent it prepaid free to you!! Boy, it is sure hard to get a glimpse of recognition around here lately!

 Are you going to remove them again for paint?


 Haha! What's this Todd! Picking up for your new hired man? I sent the pedal kit, someone else sent the pads!!!! But it's all good... I like razzing you older guys now and again!

 



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Ah. I didn't know that.

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Would someone who owns a factory manual trans 65-66 B body be willing to look at the z bar and tell me if it sits flat (horizontal) and also if it runs pretty much perpendicular to the block or at an angle? I'd like to make sure I get the tab welded on the frame in the correct spot.

Thanks in advance.

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from my orig belair frame

pretty sure the pivot is supposed to be centered over the divet in the frame, that's how i installed the other one.



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Maybe I should have sent a piece of the frame with the bracket attached for you? Nah, you'll get 'er........... You can't go wrong, the recess is there to guide you....



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Nailhead wrote:

67Poncho wrote:
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66 and 67 are same thing.

  Actually, '65-'70 are the same... That was the great thing with our Canadian Pontiac's and Chevys!


 ....no kidding , I always liked the versatility of the GM cars.  Actually the 66 and 67 used the same hump in the floor and same console, the 68 up the hump was different and shifter was moved over to the right more.  


65 was the same as 66 67 ones aswell.

-- Edited by 2qwik2c on Saturday 6th of October 2012 06:53:34 AM

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