So it looks like getting regular fender patches really isn't worth doing for my car. However maybe smaller pieces could be used to patch up the rust areas. Does anybody know what gauge the outer sheet metal is? I'm leaving the inner and just coating with Tremclad. Todd's going to help with the cutting and welding in of new pieces. I also wanted to know how that trim is secured? Might decide to use that as the cut line and then blend paint below it, or just cut way down right at the rust.
pics are on this thread, sorry couldn't seem to save and repost from my computer, look on second and third page of thread
-- Edited by Pontiacanada on Saturday 9th of February 2013 06:59:40 PM
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I would use 18 guage, just make templates from cardboard, form them with you knee, or go buy a profile guage from Princess auto.
Really really glad to see you are repairing only the nessesary areas, whatever you do, do NOT buy new fenders, they will fit like crap, best to repair the originals as you are doing
Best of luck
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MY BEAUMONT HAS 4 STUDDED TIRES AND 2 BLOCKHEATERS......AND LOTS OF OIL UNDERNEATH. The other one has a longer roof.
I would use 18 guage, just make templates from cardboard, form them with you knee, or go buy a profile guage from Princess auto.
Really really glad to see you are repairing only the nessesary areas, whatever you do, do NOT buy new fenders, they will fit like crap, best to repair the originals as you are doing
Best of luck
Thanks for that info. Now if i didn't get it at Princess Auto, where would i go to get that guage of steel?
I use old scrap hoods, roof panels etc. Someone local to you must have an old car with a junk roof, hood, fender, trunk, something you can cut a chunk from?
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1966 Grande Parisienne, 396 1 of 23 factory air cars (now converted to a "factory" 4 speed)
I use old scrap hoods, roof panels etc. Someone local to you must have an old car with a junk roof, hood, fender, trunk, something you can cut a chunk from?
That's the way to go ... don't just take the "flat" parts, take the "curves" also ... saves time fabbing-up a curved piece.
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Get yourself a couple of old hoods or trunks. Bent or rusted ones should be cheap. You can cut pieces out for the repair - and you can use pieces to practice welding and work out your heat & wire feed rate settings.
I just called my father-in-law about getting some old fenders. He's got a couple that he's not using on his 67 Malibu so i'm getting them for free for us to cut up and use. I'll pick them up next weekend. Having both fenders hopefully will give us lots of useable sheet metal.
Good stuff ... genuine vintage GM steel! Sure beats Princess Auto's cheap steel made out of recycled Kias!
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
If you can get two decent fenders from a Malibu, why bother fixing yours?
If his aren't too bad, I'd recommend getting an old junk hood or trunk or fender off something no one wants. Even if his Malibu fenders have a little rust, they're likely a better starting point for someone than the new, reproductions ...
I took the fenders over to Todd's place on Monday. I didn't have a camera with me but believe me when i say these are no where to being mint fenders but they'll be perfect for cutting up and getting pieces to patch my originals!
'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
Darryl, that one looks in almost identical condition to the one I stripped the trim off for you a year ago or so. Same color and type of patina on the roof but yours has a little more. I wish our pick n pull would get some more of these oldies in there.
i keep all my old body panels also , even if i dont use them for now , they will be available , personnaly i can t part out some orig GM Steel especially if they where on one of my cars .
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1965 CHEV BEL AIR 230 3 SPEED
I LIKE THEM PLAIN , I LOVE BENCH SEATS , POVERTY CAPS,NO TRIM.
I HAVE THIS THING FOR A 4 DOOR 65 BISCAYNE 6 CYL STD DONT KNOW WHY ?
It's a good thing welds grind down! We took a trip to the local NAPA. They do custom spray cans however they couldn't find the code on their computer. They are going to call the supplier on Monday. I managed to get the rest of the panel welded in, ground, and a coat of body filler. I'll take more photos tomorrow.
Nice work guys. Using re-cycled metal is the way to go, it's the correct gauge and gets ride of some old stuff from your garage. It will look great. Brian
So the repair got underway today. I'm helping as much as i can, Todd is a real maestro, here's pics of how the work went today.
It keeps Todd "loosened-up" for his next big project! Good stuff!
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'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.
I found the old paint can when I did the 1/4 s The color I used was G8524ID it is for a 1983 NISSAN acrylic enamel, Napa mixed it up in a spray bomb around $22.00 Hope this helps
We took a trip to the local NAPA. They do custom spray cans however they couldn't find the code on their computer. They are going to call the supplier on Monday. I managed to get the rest of the panel welded in, ground, and a coat of body filler. I'll take more photos tomorrow.
Good stuff!