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Puzzled...need help... fuel problems


Last Sunday on my way back from a car show the car started sputtering and then no more fuel delivery...the fuel filter was dry and no matter what I tried to do nothing was happening (CAA membership very useful)... I thought fuel pump... so yesterday I went and found the correct fuel pump, installed it and still nothing... changed the fuel filter...

Fuel is coming in from tank no problem... I thought I didn't position the rod in the fuel pump correctly so disassembled it and reinstalled it....

I even took the carb out and changed the diaphragm...  tried and tried again still nothing...

engine is 327 ci , Holley 650 cfm carb...

Have I forgotten something?confuseconfuseconfuseconfuseconfuseconfuse

Last resort, U-Haul and go to Morris t the local Chevy dealership...biggrinbiggrinbiggrin



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wow cry  sounds like you covered everything    will it "try" to start   splutter? backfire?  

crank it with fuel line to carb unfastened, to see if its pumping that far....



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It almost seem thats the only thing confuse    I have had trouble with them before  

I always use some wheelbearing grease to hold the rod "up"



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So does it start then quit after you pour gas down the carb?

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You can pull the pump and check if the rod is moving up and down when someone cranks it. If not, likely the fuel pump lobe on the cam is wiped out.

For the record, there is a bolt hole in the front of the block you can use to hold the rod up while you change pumps. Just gently tighten the bolt against the rod with the rod "up" and it will stay while you change the pump.

How have you confirmed delivery from the tank is fine?

I'll have all my spies watching for a U Haul headed this way. You won't likely make it past the Ontario/Manitoba border anyway...

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I mean to have someone pushing on the rod as someone else cranks it, kind of like it's spring loaded.

This bolt.

Ok, that sounds good.

Yes I do...

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Check all the lines and hoses between the tank and pump. This is the suction side so if a hose is cracked open or line rusted through, the pump will suck air not fuel. To check, pressure up the tank with air. This will push fuel up the line and cause a leak in the bad spot. If no leaks lines are good. Check and see if fuel is at pump inlet then. If so and won't run it has to be pump related. And it wouldn't be the first bad part out there either. Finding more and more bad parts every year.

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Call CAA   and have them deliver it to Morris Manitoba



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if not sucking air then it almost sounds like the lobe on the cam is worn off, I have never seen that happen. If that is the case then just get a electric fuel pump and problem is solved the easiest and cheapest way.

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Johnnee D wrote:

 

 

 

 

yup broken... so I took out a pump I just bought a couple of months back from the Wizzard of Morris...

 

 

 

and the car started right away... this is a temporary fix as the pump was on a shelf for many years...

Thanks Carl, I will never make fun of you again...

I will never comment on your "fake"parts again,

I will not go a nd spend the rest of the summer at your house...nononono

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again everyone, now online to order a proper fuel pump...

JD

 





          HERE IT IS FOLKS     promises and more promises    

          AND   the pump you stole from Carl is probably better, than any online crap today  

         just saying   try it for awhile



-- Edited by 427carl on Wednesday 13th of August 2014 05:55:16 PM

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427carl wrote:

Johnnee D wrote:

 

 

 

 

yup broken... so I took out a pump I just bought a couple of months back from the Wizzard of Morris...

 

 

 

and the car started right away... this is a temporary fix as the pump was on a shelf for many years...

Thanks Carl, I will never make fun of you again...

I will never comment on your "fake"parts again,

I will not go a nd spend the rest of the summer at your house...nononono

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks again everyone, now online to order a proper fuel pump...

JD

 





          HERE IT IS FOLKS     promises and more promises    

          AND   the pump you stole from Carl is probably better, than any online crap today  

         just saying   try it for awhile







Obviously Johnnee's been drinking to talk like this...

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Glad you found it. It had to be something simple like that.

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Johnnee D wrote:

ordered the same as Carl's on Summit... Carter M3120


         Thats funny     same part number ?  

          Lets see.. keep on Carls made in USA wink     or install the Summit one, made by the same 9 year boy who made the NAPA one  disbelief  thats funny  



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That's Mr Wizard to you Johnnee.

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he possible correct     I just know the Summit one will be identical to the NAPA one      I'd rather have Carls old NOS anyotme



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