1962 Parisienne - A New Day Dawns, Will It Start?

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1962 Parisienne - A New Day Dawns, Will It Start?

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

An exciting thing to do. Best of luck!

HonestDave · Addicted!

Johnnee D wrote:
so? did it start?

It did !

Unbelievable......it had some clouds of black smoke and ran on about four cylinders until I lubed up the choke and got it opening. Runs incredibly smooth, no smoke, no knocking or ticking. Had to tighten the left exhaust nuts. "Tis an amazing event.

Bogs a bit when I give it gas because the accelerator pump isn't working, but that's to be expected. Was a new carb not long before it was parked, but the years haven't been kind to it.

At idle it barely charges, but when I rev it up just a bit, the needle on my meter goes to around 14 volts. Still has it's original style generator. The electronic ignition mounted on the firewall, has a red light on it. I took that as a good sign. Glad it's working.

Now, do I throw it up for sale for a few days, or start working on the brakes next, so it can be driven? Hard to say. Still a million things that need tending to.

For the moment, I'll be happy with the success of today. biggrin

hawkeye5766 · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Good show, does the trans shift? just drive it up and down the driveway, use the e-brake.

HonestDave · Addicted!

hawkeye5766 wrote:
Good show, does the trans shift? just drive it up and down the driveway, use the e-brake.

Not sure about the tranny. The car is running from a hose hanging out of a jerrycan on the concrete. It'll have to wait for another day. Didn't see any tranny fluid on the garage floor, and it ran for at least 15-20 minutes. I suppose that's a plus :)

When I'm a bit braver, I'll put gas in the tank and hook it back up. The gauge goes all the way to the right, so I guess my sending unit ground wire is bad. Might even look for a gas cap !!

rabbit64cs · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

nice !!

what I like to do with old tanks.. is disconnect the line like you have.. use a cheapie electric fuel pump.. drain down the old gas this way.. then put about 2gal of fresh stuff slosh the car some.. then pump it down again.. filter the gas and re use..

that way you can see what is coming out of the tank before hand. put back in to service.. you sill want to install a clear fuel filter once you start moving things around..sure enough there will be scale and rust working its way from the tank.

Canadian Poncho · A Poncho Legend!

That's great news! It also sounds like your generator is doing the right thing. A generator does not charge at idle. That's why there was a switch to alternators as they charge at idle.

dualquadpete · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

I'd stick with the "jerry can" !!!! Who knows what the lines & tank are like & no sense sucking all that crap into the F/pump & carb & screwing up a running engine IMOP!! Pete

427carl · A Poncho Legend!

dualquadpete wrote:
I'd stick with the "jerry can" !!!! Who knows what the lines & tank are like & no sense sucking all that crap into the F/pump & carb & screwing up a running engine IMOP!! Pete

biggrin x2

HonestDave · Addicted!

Johnnee D wrote:
that's great news! what's next?

That remains to be seen. I can put a block behind the rear wheel and see if the tranny works. If it does, maybe some brake work. Then there's the gas tank issue......no shortage of things :)

HonestDave · Addicted!

I sure like listening to it run, with that nice, quiet single exhaust I put in. Took about twelve or thirteen hours to fit it in right. Used all the best hangers from both cars. Tough without a hoist, though. Lots of cussing. Good thing I'm retired. If my time had any value, the exhaust would be worth a fortune !!
And I know if I pass it on, the next owner will garbage the single and run duals. Hmmm.......may have to keep it, after all :)
Speaking of duals, I'm still missing my dual antennas. Might have to hit the "Parts Wanted" forum soon.

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Johnnee D wrote:
and happy one year onboard CP!

Yowzers !! Where did a year slip away to? You're right, December 29th is a year.

Feels like I spent most of it under a 62 Parisienne.......I suppose that's good. biggrin

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Congrats ... it's alive!!!!

HonestDave · Addicted!

Looks like the car had a new master before it was parked. Maybe a new booster as well. I think I'll pull the master and clean it out. It'll be full of rust. Give it a good scouring with the hone, and see how smooth it gets. The rubber might still be good. If not, I'll buy a new master. They're probably all of $40 or so.
The fuel tank, I'll have to dwell on a bit. I pulled the one out of the parts car, and it wasn't a fun job. The rusty bolts always break, and I think I even ripped a strap. As usual, I broke the ground wire. I never seem to be able to pull a tank without breaking that wire. Like a mental block or something. Broke at least two or three this year alone !

My mistake on the price of a master. Just got off the phone with Lordco. $95-$125 depending on which bore size.

Guess I'm for sure honing out the old one. biggrin

-- Edited by HonestDave on Wednesday 31st of December 2014 07:15:13 PM

4SPEED427 · A Poncho Legend!

Wow, that master price seems crazy. I'm sure I only paid around 30 bucks for the cylinder on my 65 Acadian.

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

HonestDave wrote:
My mistake on the price of a master. Just got off the phone with Lordco. $95-$125 depending on which bore size.
Guess I'm for sure honing out the old one.

-- Edited by HonestDave on Wednesday 31st of December 2014 07:15:13 PM

Try this.....I think they ship out of Vancouver B.C.

http://www.canadapartsonline.com/

http://www.canadapartsonline.com/search/?Ntt=master+cylinder&searchType=global&N=0&uts=true&Ns=&Nf=price6%7CGT+.01%7Cshipping2%7CGT%2B0&shopId=1

-- Edited by Greaser on Wednesday 31st of December 2014 07:29:15 PM

HonestDave · Addicted!

Just had an excellent idea. I'll put a clear filter right after the hard line, before the pump. I can get gas in the tank and not have to bother with cleaning or pulling the tank right now. There's already a filter between the pump and carb.
As usually, the lazy man will find a way !!
Good temporary measure, anyway, I suppose.

HonestDave · Addicted!

Hey Greaser, I checked out that site. They don't seem to show masters, just parts for masters.

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

HonestDave wrote:
Hey Greaser, I checked out that site. They don't seem to show masters, just parts for masters.

I assume you're looking for a master brake cylinder for your 62 Pontiac?

Same as a 1962 Chev master brake cylinder is it not?

The second link I posted had a list for 62 Chevs.......

http://www.canadapartsonline.com/search/?Ntt=master+cylinder&searchType=global&N=0&uts=true&Ns=&Nf=price6%7CGT+.01%7Cshipping2%7CGT%2B0&shopId=1

HonestDave · Addicted!

Right you are, Greaser. Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like. Sometimes they polish up nicely and the rubbers are okay. Worth a try anyway. If I can only find room on the workbench.........
I was thinking of looking at a 67 2+2 hardtop out in Chilliwack for $2500, or a 65 Parisienne convertible in Abbotsford for around $3500, but my wife figures I should just keep on this one for a while. It's hard, though. The urge to buy more terrorizes me !!

Pontiacanada · A Poncho Legend!

Focus Dave ... focus.

HonestDave · Addicted!

Pontiacanada wrote:
Focus Dave ... focus.

I hear ya.......I really do need to stay the course. Now I've found the engine to be decent, I should focus on transmission. I so easily spin off course.

I also need a warm day so I can clamp down the roof again. It is shrunken to nothingness, and I'll not spend money on a new top.

They were close to a thousand bucks last time I got one done. Probably two or three big ones by now. I think I was in my twenties last time I did one.......yikes.......where did the time go?

Greaser · Canadian Poncho Superstar!

HonestDave wrote:
Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like.

With 4 of them being under 43.00 US....I wouldn't waste my time.

How old is the one you got?.....what's your time worth? How much is a rubber kit?

I personally would feel better (safer) with one that's new....honing it yourself and replacing irubbers with a kit has to cost you more in time and money than buying a new one..

Just me thinking Dave.

HonestDave · Addicted!

Greaser wrote:
HonestDave wrote:
Lots of masters on that site. Interesting they price in US dollars. Guess the market is south. I'll pull mine apart first, and see what it looks like.
With 4 of them being under 43.00 US....I wouldn't waste my time.
How old is the one you got?.....what's your time worth? How much is a rubber kit?
I personally would feel better (safer) with one that's new....honing it yourself and replacing irubbers with a kit has to cost you more in time and money than buying a new one..
Just me thinking Dave.

The thing is, if I get the master working good enough to test the transmission, I can make my next decision. I don't want to spend money if I don't need to. It will ad no value to the car. If I sell it, whoever buys it will rip out the master and put on a complete front disc system. Almost every car I get now, has disc brakes and Flowmasters. The kids today don't think a car is driveable on drums. In most cases I find if the shoes aren't arced to the exact curve of the drums, they're right.

I'm rambling, must be bed time. I'm retired, so my time has little value. If I decide to keep this car a while, things may get done a little differently. I'm still at the decision making stage. To keep or not to keep, that is a big question.

eeluddy · Uber Guru

Hows the frame and floors? How much do you want for it?