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1981 Pontiac Parisienne Sports Coupe


I have a 1981 Pontiac Parisienne Sports Coupe w/267 V8.  Have too much invested in the bodywork and paint but it was a good experience. Low number car 1 of 92 in Silver.  Would like some more hp.   Have a chance on a big block out of a 1981 Firebird.  Will it work?  Any suggestions On a suitable replacement power plant?image.jpeg



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What do you mean by Big Block ? To me its a Mark IV 396 to 454 Chev power. 



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I'd put in an LS motor.


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Good Question Ray.   Not sure what the engine options were for a 1981 Firebird. Saw the car on Kijiji this morning thought I'd ask a few questions of the membership prior to engaging the owner.  



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www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/chatham-kent/price-drop-1982-big-block-firebird/1115565161

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1981 Firebird Engines

1981265 cu in (4.3 L) Pontiac V8301 cu in (4.9 L) Pontiac V8305 cu in (5.0 L) Chevrolet V8 (4-speed only)301 cu in (4.9 L) Pontiac turbo V8

So no Big Blocks were factory available in 1981 Firebirds, Although a Pontiac 400 or 455 would easily swap in and these are sometimes referred to as Big Blocks disbelief.

Todd's idea is a more expensive but good option. Since the Parisienne has Chevy small block power there are a lot of straightforward swaps available to you. 

Crosstown engines here in Toronto sells lots of reman engines, I'm partial to the Vortec 5.7 Code R 255 HP 365 lb ft. It is the last of the true original small blocks. GM sells this with a few modifications as as the Ram Jet crate engine.

Here's the listing:

5.7 L(R) GMC VORTEC'96 - '01$ 1850


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Double D wrote:

www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/chatham-kent/price-drop-1982-big-block-firebird/1115565161

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 That's an Olds engine. I guess its a 455. Funnily enough US Bonnevilles got the 403 Olds in that era of car but I am not familar enough to give any advice on swapping that into the Parisenne.



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73SC wrote:
Double D wrote:

www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/chatham-kent/price-drop-1982-big-block-firebird/1115565161

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 That's an Olds engine. I guess its a 455. Funnily enough US Bonnevilles got the 403 Olds in that era of car but I am not familar enough to give any advice on swapping that into the Parisenne.


They put the 403 Olds in the Firebirds in that era as GM stopped making Pontiac blocks.    If you're doing any type of swap, I'd go with a Small Block Chevrolet 350.



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Not one to care about what engine is in it I just want to say that, that is one sweet looking 81.

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Almost exactly the same as my first car except mine had the landau roof, blue interior and was not as nice a shape.

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Beautiful car!!

I put a 400 Small Block Chevy in my 1981 Parisienne Coupe.

Direct bolt in!!

FYI 403 Olds were Olds small blocks, not big blocks, but lots of changes needed to install one in place of a SBC.

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Fewest headaches and the most straighforward swap would be with another small block Chevy. Be aware that the 267 probably has a TH-200 behind it; you will want something stronger like a TH-350. Also a 1981 probably has a lockup converter; the earliest versions were known for being a bit rough and clunky. A 700R4 or 200R4 would be a really nice upgrade, but you would want to change out you rear gearing since it probably has a 2.41 or something similar already. Maybe a 3.42 with a 4-speed o.d. would be sweet. Or you could keep it simple and pick up a straight forward TH-350, forget the rear swap and drop in a 350 V8.

I just thought of something, some of those 197n big cars used a puny 7.5" rear end (typically 267 & 305 cars). They can't handle much, so balance your drivetrain options carefully.



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Well put as always Cameron,

Would this fine car also have to consider emissions?



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When all is said and done, it seems like a lot of work to go through for a '81 Parisienne. Just my opinion.



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In Ontario vehicles manufactured before 1988 do not need an emissions test. Lot's of good advice from CDN Poncho members. Probably not heading to the strip with an '81 Parisienne. I like 73SC's engine thoughts. Would love to take GLHS60's advice and bolt in a 400CID. Thanks for the words of caution from CdnGMfan on drive train concerns if I did so. Pontiacananda, I agree, a lot of work for " an '81" Parisienne but it was 1 of 92 in Silver, too good a shape to let sit and rust. I feel obligated to preserve a car built the day before my daughter was born. In the end, my bank balance will determine the '81's future. Thanks everyone for your expert advice. Merry Christmas to all Pontiac lovers
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My two cents is a nice slightly more than stock small block. Easy swap, fun, practical and a worthy car to preserve, for sure.

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Beautiful car. I would just enjoy it as it is myself and not go through the trouble.

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