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Wanted 1971 Firebird Trans Am Rally II Wheels 15x7


I Am Looking For A Set Of Four 15x7 Rally II Wheels for A 1971 Firebird 455 Formula With Code Stamp KN Located At Valve Stem.

Please Let Me Know If You Have One Or Two Or A Complete For Sale.



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Wow .   those are show car rims .  I searched the internet .   you better save up your Christmas money 



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I sold a set of 14x7 1969 JK code pontiac rallye wheels a year ago that were for 1969 Grand Prix and 1969 Firebird Ram Air. They were worth a lot of money and I am sure the rarity of the ones you are looking for will drive the price up. Check a Hollander manual for different applications to look for.

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Yes Indeed I have been spending some money lately.  Too Bad the car was not ordered with the honey comb wheels as they are less difficult to locate.  Found a four core rad in the USA reasonably priced but I am sure the shipping will be insane.  Found the sandalwood deluxe steering wheel and missing interior parts recently locally. Also came across a package deal on NOS weatherstrip locally the timing has all hit at Xmas time I will have to use the Visa Card for groceries and presents.  HO..HO.. HO.  Plus I am working on my chevelle project hope to have the body back on frame Xmas weekend when there are more helpers around the house.



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if you are not particular about originality check after market honey combs



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Years ago, I met a fellow with an Oshawa built 70 GTO Judge convertible and he had cleaned and welded over the non matching stamping and then restamped the appropriate code on the rim for his application.

Ultimately I guess it depends at what level your restoration is going to be.

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Not cheap ! They run for on average at $500 usd ea.

http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/forums/showthread.php?792706&p=5601179#post5601179

https://www.ebay.com/itm/70-71-72-PONTIAC-FIREBIRD-TRANS-AM-GTO-JUDGE-15X7-RALLY-II-WHEELS-JW-KR-KN/371675405059?hash=item5689949b03:g:MA0AAOSwZjJU83~U&vxp=mtr



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Years ago, I met a fellow with an Oshawa built 70 GTO Judge convertible and he had cleaned and welded over the non matching stamping and then restamped the appropriate code on the rim for his application.

Ultimately I guess it depends at what level your restoration is going to be.


I've got the letter/number stamps ... I guess I'll get into the rim business!smile 



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NOT just stamps.

70-72 15" x 7' Rally II's.....used a 14" center..... in a 15" barrel.

In 73.....the newer style came out.....with a 15" center.....those are the generic ones that you find at the swap meet for $25.

The early ones are cosmetically different.



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That is strong money on the ebay auction.  l have purchased items from that particular seller "Weaver Family" in the past the freight is same price as the wheels.  The idea of re-stamping blank rims with no codes makes good sense.  Do all Pontiac 15X7 rally wheels with 5 x 4.75 lug pattern have the same backspace offset?  



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They are dimensionally the same......and if you add the PO6 trim ring option....nobody will know.....except US......biggrin



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These early TA 15s sure look different than the generic 1973-80 ones,  trim rings are different too but I wouldn't use trim rings on the early ones.

 



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yes i like the look of the wheels without trim rings as well



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elkykid wrote:

yes i like the look of the wheels without trim rings as well


 kinda plain,  but beauty is in the eye of the owner wink

c25df4df13591d8d176d1be042c5023e--firebird-pontiac.jpg



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pontorquer wrote:

These early TA 15s sure look different than the generic 1973-80 ones,  trim rings are different too but I wouldn't use trim rings on the early ones.

 


 71 was the last year or a dechromed Rally II......In 72.....the trim rings became standard equipment...



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So the 70- 72 15" trim ring is unique.
Wonder if it is the same as the Olds? Olds kept the 14" centre in a 15" hoop right up into the 80's.

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427carl wrote:
elkykid wrote:

yes i like the look of the wheels without trim rings as well


 kinda plain,  but beauty is in the eye of the owner wink

c25df4df13591d8d176d1be042c5023e--firebird-pontiac.jpg


 That is righteous......The quintessential early Trans Am.



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Those early Trans Ams are certainly some of the nicest ones made. And those Rally II's look great on there.

A few years ago, I visited my widowed friend in the US. She still had the original Rally II's and white letter bias ply tires her husband pulled off the 71 he bought brand new. I know she sold the car shortly after I was there and I think she sold the wheels and tires with it, but I can check if you like.

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So, how can you tell the 14" centre? We have 5 of those wheels kicking around, but I'm guessing they're newer...just based on the volume of how many made...

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There is a 2 letter code stamped on the outer face.....close to valve stem hole.....

You might have to sand or scrape old paint/rust to read it.

The early style are coded JW...KR...and KN...

The majority of the 73 and newer are coded MH...or HW......If I recall correctly..



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Ok.....picture 1 and 2 are the real deal.....(70-72)

Picture 3 and 4 are the generic 73 on up....(these were off a 79)...with rounded trim rings

Picture 5 shows the correct 70-72 trim ring.....with the flat edge

The late wheel has 2 almost identical steps in the barrel.....from tire edge to center....

The top step on the early wheel is similar.....but second step has a more gradual roll to it.....and would be  1/2" deeper....to accommodate the smaller 14" center



-- Edited by MoboMac on Saturday 23rd of December 2017 09:10:35 PM

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There is a 2 letter code stamped on the outer face.....close to valve stem hole.....

You might have to sand or scrape old paint/rust to read it.

The early style are coded JW...KR...and KN...

The majority of the 73 and newer are coded MH...or HW......If I recall correctly..


       Does the code at the valve stem really matter?  if car is not subject to regular "judging"   



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The guys that know these cars........DO know the details......and YES.....it is very important to have the correct wheels.

Modifed Trans ams do not command the $$$ that bone stock ones do....in those years

If a 70-72 TA is even remotely CLOSE to appearing stock.....that is the first thing that gets their attention....

Production for the three years was about 6600 total.....not rare....but definitely low production...

70 1/2 was 3200......and there was NO optional Trans am wheel...and by 1975.......a lot of the factory wheels went in the dumpster......being replaced by centerlines,cragars,etc.

In 71 and 72.....the 15" Honeycomb was available....so it could be substituted......even though they are a lot heavier



-- Edited by MoboMac on Sunday 24th of December 2017 03:58:07 PM

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Well Xmas is over for another year.  Will just have to be patient on the wheel hunt.  There is a gentlemen in Washington making these rally II wheels with from stock Pontiac wheel parts inventory and the wheels sell on ebay for $395 US Each.



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