Photobucket
Photobucket
Members Login
Post Info TOPIC: 327 oil filter housing parts


Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:
327 oil filter housing parts


I am getting a 65 327 rebuilt and would like to convert from canister style oil filter to screw on style but before I go any further my builder says that I am missing the piece that mounts at the base. the two screws were still on the block when I got it but nothing else, so I am in need of the part that sits in the bottom of the block that the new conversion piece mates up to. I do not even have an picture to go by to search elsewhere. Any Help would be grateful Thank Lawrence



__________________

65 SD Convertible



A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

This is what it looks like.

www.secondchancegarage.com/public/509.cfm

If nobody else steps up sooner, I may be able to help you out. I think I have one I could part with.

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles


Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

Thanks for the link Carl. Correct me if I am wrong but the part I am missing is the bypass valve plate?  My friend Don out this way is flipping over a 283 he has but I told him not to give it to me because down the road he will need it at some point. So ya if a spare one comes up I will take it gladly.



__________________

65 SD Convertible



Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Status: Offline
Posts: 4833
Date:

Believe Rockauto has them.

__________________


A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

I will check in the next couple of days. I have to dig around in a shed. I think I might have the bypass as well.

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles


A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

I decided to go to the shed tonight because it's nice out and apparently it's going to be real cold in a day or two.

I found the spin on adapter but so far no luck finding the bypass. If I can't find one and someone in Winnipeg would happen to have one I could get together with them to save money on shipping. And besides, I'd sooner have the original bypass if I were you, vs. a Chinese made unit.

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles


Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 174
Date:

Just from what ive been told over the years and don`t get me wrong i use the adapter on my 327, but a lot of people say the canister is a better filter if you can still get that type idk.






-- Edited by canso_SD on Tuesday 19th of December 2017 02:39:46 AM

__________________




Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Status: Offline
Posts: 16675
Date:

canso_SD wrote:

Just from what ive been told over the years and don`t get me wrong i use the adapter on my 327, but a lot of people say the canister is a better filter if you can still get that type idk.


 You can still get the canister filters almost everywhere ... I like them also (I use NAPA gold).

As for the screw on adaptor, you can also get them almost everywhere.



__________________

Prince Edward Islandbug.gif

'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.



Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

Thanks again Carl for the Zip products lead I had a look through their site and the yes they do have all the parts I am after to do a complete conversion. I also found a correct Holley vacuum restrictor fitting that I could not find anywhere. I prefer original parts for the quality and I like Originality too but as good as the canister looks on the bottom of the engine I also like the simplicity of the screw on filter. I would end up with a huge oil slick on me and floor every time I changed the oil or filter, so I am still hoping someone finds one. I got the day off today due to falling slush so I took the opportunity to look for some other missing bits for the engine flywheel and a points distributor core that he will send down south to be rebuilt with electronic parts. Found a flywheel pretty quick on craigs list and on the way home decided to stop in at Classic auto wreckers in Langley. This is the type of place that is overgrown with blackberry's and partially flooded in winter, but thought why not maybe I find something in one of the many buildings and containers spread around the property. I asked the owner if he and any laying around and he pointed me to a building and gave me a light, it took about two minutes and I found the only one GM points distributor in the pile. If I am right it even has the correct date for my 65, neat find, unfortunately never found the oil plate.



Attachments
__________________

65 SD Convertible



A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

Yes, looks right, cast iron. I'm sure the racers were all happy to toss those out and shed a pound or two on their car.

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles


A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 35734
Date:

fullsizeoutput_10cf.jpeg

fullsizeoutput_10d0.jpeg

 



Attachments
__________________

 



Poncho Master!

Status: Offline
Posts: 1568
Date:

You can get a filter adapter that takes a common ford spin on oil filter which has a built in bypass. Show Cars sells them, plus they sell the by pass for the other adapter. Part #3222 and 6999 (says for the 348-409, but same as small block).

www.show-cars.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi



__________________

63 Pariesienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. Parting out a 63 Parisienne convertible.

Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic



A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

At one time, one of the companies selling these adaptors listed a big block part number vs a small block part number. I've never known there to be a difference. Any ideas on that one Don?

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles


Poncho Master!

Status: Offline
Posts: 1568
Date:

Never messed with a big block, the 396 on variety. Everything on the 348 & 409 oil filter housing is 100% interchangeable with the small blocks.

One other thing, if you buy any spin on filter adapter, go get grade 8 bolts to replace those 2 that come in the kits. Most of those small bolts are junk and easily overtightened and stretched. And check to remove all traces of the old o ring in the groove in the block before installing a new one. Many of these adapters are also poorly made.

Another thing that can happen with the adapter is if you use too long a bolt in a bellhousing, it can extend into the side of your filter/adapter and cause a leak.

Or just stay with the old canister and avoid all issues, they also hold more oil than a spin on. I do have the ford spin on and have had no issues with them leaking, they take a 5.0/302 oil filter.

__________________

63 Pariesienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. Parting out a 63 Parisienne convertible.

Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic



Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Status: Offline
Posts: 16675
Date:

DonSSDD wrote:

 Or just stay with the old canister and avoid all issues, they also hold more oil than a spin on.


 Canisters also have at least twice the filter surface area of a spin-on. You can also place a strong magnet inside. Not much more mess than a spin-on when it comes to changing them out.

 



__________________

Prince Edward Islandbug.gif

'64 Parisienne CS "barn find" - last on the road in '86 ... Owner Protection Plan booklet, original paint, original near-mint aqua interior, original aqua GM floor mats, original 283, factory posi, and original rust.



Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

That is an option.  But I would still will need the oil bypass valve plate for it to mount to, and the canister and filters. 

 



__________________

65 SD Convertible



Poncho Master!

Status: Offline
Posts: 1568
Date:

Filters are readily available at heavy truck places, likely, NAPA, Canadian Tire, I'd say. I do not have a bypass but I have 3 canisters, pay for shipping and you can have one.

__________________

63 Pariesienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. Parting out a 63 Parisienne convertible.

Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic



Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

Thank You Don. I may be taking you up on that offer. Prior to my search for the parts that I was missing I figured the screw on filter was what belonged on the engine, after input from other members and my research on it I have reconsidered. I have been scouring the internet for pros and cons of both systems, and have found them to be about even. I think for me now the determining factors would now come down to two things. Originality, I like to see original correct parts. And quality, I have seen many different brands of adapter kits and I am not totally confident in them as of yet. I will keep searching for an original bypass plate and when the engine gets closer to start up and I have not found what I need, then I will order the part. And if your offer is still good I will take you up on it.



__________________

65 SD Convertible



Poncho Master!

Status: Offline
Posts: 1568
Date:

This is the Show Cars part you are looking for. Now that I see it, I may have one of those too, I'll check.



__________________

63 Pariesienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. Parting out a 63 Parisienne convertible.

Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic



Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

This is part I am looking for I figured out how to get picture from internet to my smarter than me phone

5FB650B2-A0EB-4525-9C42-DEF5A1676F4A.jpeg

Attachments
__________________

65 SD Convertible



Poncho Master!

Status: Offline
Posts: 1568
Date:

I checked, but the one I have has a small piece out of it, not usable.

__________________

63 Pariesienne sport coupe (The Big GTO), black, maroon interior, 409 4 speed; former owner of a 59 El Camino, 63 Corvette SWC, 62 Chev Bel Air SC. Parting out a 63 Parisienne convertible.

Mahone Bay, NS Still not old enough to need an automatic



Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Status: Offline
Posts: 4833
Date:

Here's a kit that a friend gave me a while back.
My 65 CS still uses the canister style filter. I was thinking of installing this because of the higher cost of the canister fittings. Then I found a deal on rockauto for a bulk buy of canister filters so haven't used it yet.
My 64 SD has the kit already installed.

spin on oil filter box.jpg

spin on oil filter assembly.jpg

spin on oil filter base.jpg

spin on oil filter diagram.jpg

spin on oil filter instructions.jpg

When I put K157 filter into ebay it gave me this listing

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fram-K98ADP-Oil-Filter-Conversion-Kit-fits-Chevy-GMC-V8/401150759345?epid=173957051&hash=item5d6672d1b1:g:4VEAAOSwA29Y3Ra8&vxp=mtr

which conveniently lists 7 other competitors kit numbers. List includes Car Quest, Napa, Wix and others.



Attachments
__________________


Addicted!

Status: Offline
Posts: 100
Date:

Ok, that one looks better than the rest and domestic made I will take it if its for sale.

__________________

65 SD Convertible



Canadian Poncho Superstar!

Status: Offline
Posts: 4792
Date:

With those kits the missing bypass valve still needs to be present.

__________________
70 2+2 convertible
70 2+2 hardtop
70 Parisienne hardtop
72 GMC Sierra

 

 



A Poncho Legend!

Status: Offline
Posts: 37665
Date:

Well, I'll be.

I never knew GM offered a conversion. I've only ever seen aftermarket.

And nice to see this kit uses a GM filter (PF25 is the original spin on filter for GM, first introduced on the 64 V8 Novas to clear the clutch linkage on those cars.) Some of the aftermarket spin on adapter kits actually use a F**d spin on filter.

__________________
1966 Strato Chief 2 door sedan 283 4 speed 43,000 miles
1 2  >  Last»  | Page of 2  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us
.
Support Canadian Poncho!
Select Amount:
.
.
.